Tang Aggression - Understanding and Combating

[4FordFamily]

Oh wow. What do I do? I was planning on 14 days full copper. I only had Ich but i understand these parasites stay dormant for years. I don’t want to take this thread on a different direction. Should I post somewhere else? I have a lot of fish in QT tanks and don‘t really want to go 30 days. I battling ammonia in 1 40b with the the Naso,Blue Hippo, 7” Annularis, small Bellus, and Golden head Goby. I have a Clean 55g cycling right now waiting for those fish. I’m at day 8 of copper.

It’s up to you. Ich seems to be taken care if in 14 days if you’re sure it’s ich and plenty of velvet strains get killed too. What I have may be very rare, or the new norm. I just don’t know yet.

 

[4FordFamily]

I’ve had tangs heal up fine but aggression isn’t likely to stop. I’d remove the aggressor. Sorry

 

[hyeclass]

get it out and put it in some NFG or some other antibiotics. These types of tangs don't survive too long with wounds like that.

You think I should use paraguard

 

[hyeclass]

I’ve had tangs heal up fine but aggression isn’t likely to stop. I’d remove the aggressor. Sorry

You absolutely right no question asked 100%

His ok with another tangs he hates his kind lol silly

so hard to take him out red light I got a trapper powder blue is very healthy he even got fat eating all the goodies

 

[hyeclass]

get it out and put it in some NFG or some other antibiotics. These types of tangs don't survive too long with wounds like that.

what’s a NFG?

 

[lakai]

what’s a NFG?

Nitrofuracin Green. It's a simple to use, safe and is good for helping any body damage from getting infected.

 

[hyeclass]

Nitrofuracin Green. It's a simple to use, safe and is good for helping any body damage from getting infected.

thank you for the useful information I use paraguard my gem tang was killed in 2 days by not eating was feeling weak

 

[LovesDogs_CatsRokay]

How long does it usually take for tangs to work out their issues? I added a powder brown to my yellow and sailfin yesterday. The yellow and sailfin are chasing the powder brown, but not attacking him. Wondering how long before I intervene? I had thought maybe adding the single powder brown would be okay since he's not the same body shape, but I guess not. It's a 310g, 8 foot tank, so plenty of space for everyone.

 

[lakai]

How long does it usually take for tangs to work out their issues? I added a powder brown to my yellow and sailfin yesterday. The yellow and sailfin are chasing the powder brown, but not attacking him. Wondering how long before I intervene? I had thought maybe adding the single powder brown would be okay since he's not the same body shape, but I guess not. It's a 310g, 8 foot tank, so plenty of space for everyone.

Sometimes a few hours, sometimes the next day and sometimes never. If its not getting attacked just let it be. They'll always take jabs at each other once in awhile but if none are getting hurt you've won.

 

[4FordFamily]

Sometimes a few hours, sometimes the next day and sometimes never. If its not getting attacked just let it be. They'll always take jabs at each other once in awhile but if none are getting hurt you've won.

I agree. A few days is about the longest I will let serious aggression continue. If serious damage is done before that, I usually remove.

 

[LovesDogs_CatsRokay]

Sometimes a few hours, sometimes the next day and sometimes never. If its not getting attacked just let it be. They'll always take jabs at each other once in awhile but if none are getting hurt you've won.

I agree. A few days is about the longest I will let serious aggression continue. If serious damage is done before that, I usually remove.

Looks like they're already over it. I've been sitting near the tank working and haven't seen any chasing since I posted that. I'll keep my fingers crossed. Thanks!

 

[60diablo]

It’s up to you. Ich seems to be taken care if in 14 days if you’re sure it’s ich and plenty of velvet strains get killed too. What I have may be very rare, or the new norm. I just don’t know yet.

Good morning. I'm back with 1 more question.
Today I take my fish out of 14 days of copper.
As I mentioned I have a a 55g and now also a 35g Long. I put my annularis angel 7x7"in the 35g last night. She is much happier than half of the 40gb breeder she was in.
Finally my question. Do I put the 6" hippo, 6" blond naso & 6" PBT in the 55g. Or do I maybe put the PBT in the 35 lonl with the Angel.
Note. The 55g will also have to house my 2 clowns the small firehawlk and the Golden head goby & small Bellus angel. Your thoughts? Thank you!
Note: The only fish really not familiar with each other is the PBT who got me in this mess.
They will be in these tanks for about 50 days.

 

[60diablo]

Good morning. I'm back with 1 more question.
Today I take my fish out of 14 days of copper.
As I mentioned I have a a 55g and now also a 35g Long. I put my annularis angel 7x7"in the 35g last night. She is much happier than half of the 40gb breeder she was in.
Finally my question. Do I put the 6" hippo, 6" blond naso & 6" PBT in the 55g. Or do I maybe put the PBT in the 35 lonl with the Angel.
Note. The 55g will also have to house my 2 clowns the small firehawlk and the Golden head goby & small Bellus angel. Your thoughts? Thank you!
Note: The only fish really not familiar with each other is the PBT who got me in this mess.
They will be in these tanks for about 50 days.

 

[4FordFamily]

Good morning. I'm back with 1 more question.
Today I take my fish out of 14 days of copper.
As I mentioned I have a a 55g and now also a 35g Long. I put my annularis angel 7x7"in the 35g last night. She is much happier than half of the 40gb breeder she was in.
Finally my question. Do I put the 6" hippo, 6" blond naso & 6" PBT in the 55g. Or do I maybe put the PBT in the 35 lonl with the Angel.
Note. The 55g will also have to house my 2 clowns the small firehawlk and the Golden head goby & small Bellus angel. Your thoughts? Thank you!
Note: The only fish really not familiar with each other is the PBT who got me in this mess.
They will be in these tanks for about 50 days.

I'd say as long as they're all sterile/quarantined properly to put them where they lessen the bio load amongst them while the DT runs fallow

 

[saltyhog]

Slightly off topic question for you @4FordFamily, what do you think about adding a Chelmon marginalis to an established pair of tangs (A. nigricans and Z. flavescens)? Possible or has that ship sailed?

 

[4FordFamily]

Slightly off topic question for you @4FordFamily, what do you think about adding a Chelmon marginalis to an established pair of tangs (A. nigricans and Z. flavescens)? Possible or has that ship sailed?

I’d say it’s pretty risky, but with enough distraction or other additions of similar shape it’s possible. I would advise against it, however.

 

[Glott3133]

I have a sailfin that has been in my tank for about 4 months and would like to get an Achilles. Will the Achilles trend to be more aggressive than the sailfin?

 

[4FordFamily]

I have a sailfin that has been in my tank for about 4 months and would like to get an Achilles. Will the Achilles trend to be more aggressive than the sailfin?

Yes. What size tank? What other fish?

 

[Glott3133]

Yes. What size tank? What other fish?

I have the sailfin tang
Blue throat trigger
Blue devil damsel
Mated maroon clowns
Watchman goby

In a 125 gallon tank.

 

[4FordFamily]

I have the sailfin tang
Blue throat trigger
Blue devil damsel
Mated maroon clowns
Watchman goby

In a 125 gallon tank.

I wouldn’t recommend a sailfin nor Achilles in less than 180 gallons, personally. I think you’ll have trouble, and without the ability to add more tangs concurrently (limited real estate) I’d suggest perhaps a bristletooth genus tang added with a fox face of some sort or perhaps two more zebrasoma tangs.