Tang help please

lewis.maryann08 · Nov 5, 2018

I have a tank that has been in QT fir 3 weeks in copper safe and he looks worse then he did can someone please tell me what he has that the cooper hasn't got rid of?

HotRocks · Nov 5, 2018

I see some issues.

I suspect flukes and recommend a 5 min FW dip to confirm.

Kole tang has a serious bacterial infection on it's mouth.

Looks like some lympho as well.

What are you using to test copper? What level are you treating at?

How long have they been in copper?

4FordFamily · Nov 5, 2018

HotRocks said:
I see some issues.

I suspect flukes and recommend a 5 min FW dip to confirm.

Kole tang has a serious bacterial infection on it's mouth.

Looks like some lympho as well.

What are you using to test copper? What level are you treating at?

How long have they been in copper?

I’m curious as well to these answers

Fishnut · Nov 5, 2018

IMO big water change and treat for bacterial infection.

JumboShrimp · Nov 5, 2018

I fully and respectfully defer to @HotRocks and @4FordFamily. The only 2-cents I have to add is that I have a Kole Tang in copper now that has lost a lot of color— I assume that is a temporary outcome in a hospital tank with copper, even in a best-case scenario (?)

HotRocks · Nov 5, 2018

JumboShrimp said:
I fully and respectfully defer to @HotRocks and @4FordFamily. The only 2-cents I have to add is that I have a Kole Tang in copper now that has lost a lot of color— I assume that is a temporary outcome in a hospital tank with copper, even in a best-case scenario (?)

Color loss is common. It can also be due to the fact we don't use reef lights in QT. Mine almost looked albino when added to DT from QT.

lewis.maryann08 · Nov 5, 2018

I have had him in qt for 3 weeks now he looks pal and has bumps on him ..
I have kept the cooper qt 2.0
And I use the API copper test

lewis.maryann08 · Nov 5, 2018

Do I need to be treating him in something els?

lewis.maryann08 · Nov 5, 2018

Can I mix API Melafix Fish Bacterial Infection Treatment
With other medications? Like cooper

HotRocks · Nov 5, 2018

lewis.maryann08 said:
I have had him in qt for 3 weeks now he looks pal and has bumps on him ..
I have kept the cooper qt 2.0
And I use the API copper test

The problem is coppersafe is inconsistent. The API kit is hard to read. I would recommend a Hanna Checker.

The kole needs antibiotics.

With it being a mouth infection. I would use sulfaplex, kanaplex, and furan-2. I have safely combined these three antibiotics with copper. I was using copper power at 1.75ppm.

lewis.maryann08 · Nov 5, 2018

I dont have any of that on had all I have is API Melafix Fish Bacterial Infection Treatment

ScooterV · Nov 5, 2018

I don't think melafix is going to fix anything. Do you live somewhere where meds can't be found, or ordered? In the meantime, do you have a second, sterile tank it could be moved to? @HotRocks is already on this, but that fish will need antibiotics and would be better to move it out of that tank if at all possible. Pretty fish, and hope it makes it!!!

lewis.maryann08 · Nov 5, 2018

I would have to order some..I have been doing water changes every day in the qt. Would he be better put in a bucket?

lewis.maryann08 · Nov 5, 2018

So this is what you think I need

lewis.maryann08 · Nov 5, 2018

HotRocks said:
The problem is coppersafe is inconsistent. The API kit is hard to read. I would recommend a Hanna Checker.

The kole needs antibiotics.

With it being a mouth infection. I would use sulfaplex, kanaplex, and furan-2. I have safely combined these three antibiotics with copper. I was using copper power at 1.75ppm.

Ok so you think I need all this right?

Deiblerj · Nov 5, 2018

Yeah I agree with getting a different copper test. I use Seachem and it does a good job and won’t break the bank. API doesn’t give a good reading

HotRocks · Nov 5, 2018

Deiblerj said:
Yeah I agree with getting a different copper test. I use Seachem and it does a good job and won’t break the bank. API doesn’t give a good reading

The seachem test doesn't read high enough to use with coppersafe.