Tang is not doing good

[jmoney7]

Yesterday I started dosing polyp lab medic in my tank some fish are doing better but my tang got worse. He is laying on the bottom and heavy breathing is it worth setting up a quarantine tank and doing copper or is he too far gone?

 

[threebuoys]

We need a lot more info to diagnose and recommend treatment. Please see the link below.

 

[jmoney7]

I believe he has ich but he is sitting at the bottom and breathing heavy what other do you need?

 

[jmoney7]

We need a lot more info to diagnose and recommend treatment. Please see the link below.

I’m sorry for the lack of information I forgot to add i posted on a different forum yesterday where some were saying to qt and use copper and some saying to use polyp lab medic. The tang is on the brink of death from ich. Im trying to figure out if i should set up a qt and treat them all and leave tank fallow for 90 days. But it would be 5 fish 2 chalk bass, 2 clowns, and a royal gramma all in a 13.5 gallon qt could that be sustainable for that long. If I was going to do this I would start tomorrow with setting up qt and starting copper for all of them.

 

[jmoney7]

I have bio media from main tank I could take and add to qt filtration as well to not have to do so many water changes.

 

[threebuoys]

I’m sorry for the lack of information I forgot to add i posted on a different forum yesterday where some were saying to qt and use copper and some saying to use polyp lab medic. The tang is on the brink of death from ich. Im trying to figure out if i should set up a qt and treat them all and leave tank fallow for 90 days. But it would be 5 fish 2 chalk bass, 2 clowns, and a royal gramma all in a 13.5 gallon qt could that be sustainable for that long. If I was going to do this I would start tomorrow with setting up qt and starting copper for all of them.

If truly ich, that QT and Copper Power at full strength immediately (2.25 - 2.5 ppm) is in order. Polyp lab medic is not a good choice.

 

[threebuoys]

All fish should be placed in the QT, and the tank needs to remain fallow for 6-8 weeks before returning the fish.
CURRENT QT PROTOCOL LINK

 

[jmoney7]

If truly ich, that QT and Copper Power at full strength immediately (2.25 - 2.5 ppm) is in order. Polyp lab medic is not a good choice.

Yeah I’m starting to think it’s just snake oil. Is it feasible to qt all of them in my 13.5 gallon evo? Then keep them there for 6-8 weeks for fallow period?

 

[vetteguy53081]

Yesterday I started dosing polyp lab medic in my tank some fish are doing better but my tang got worse. He is laying on the bottom and heavy breathing is it worth setting up a quarantine tank and doing copper or is he too far gone?

MEDIC is peroxide salts and typically does not work especially once ich stages are in place. Quarantine tank will be your best recourse and run at treatment level 2.25 using coppersafe for a FULL 30 days (do not interrupt this 30 day period) monitored by a reliable Copper Test kit such as Hanna Brand- No API brand. Also monitor Ammonia levels while in quarantine with a reliable test kit and add aeration during treatment using an air stone.
The display tank will have to be kept fishless (FALLOW) for 6-8 weeks to assure the existing parasites go through their life cycle without a host fish and die off
A quarantine tank can be as simple as a tank from a second hand store or a starter kit from Walmart which most of the needed essentials.
BEFORE concluding ich, Please post pics or video under white light intensity for accurate assessment

 

[jmoney7]

Was on tang then spread to Royal gramma this was taken yesterday. I’m heading to fish store now. Can I keep all 6 of my fish in 13.5 gallon evo for the 6-8 weeks? They are all pretty small.

 

[jmoney7]

So I have got copper now. I still would like to know if my fish would be ok in my 13.5 gallon evo for 6-8 weeks while they go through qt procedures and then stay in there a little while longer. All my fish are still juvenile. Its 2 chalk bass, a royal gramma, and 2 occelaris clowns. 5 fish now unfortunately the tang passed.

 

[Naekuh]

If all the fishes have a notched out territory, then i don't see why that wouldn't work.

Did they show aggression before?

The only thing i can see is that the clowns will probably get upset later and commit genocide on on the other fish. Especially if one of those clowns transition to a female.

 

[jmoney7]

If all the fishes have a notched out territory, then i don't see why that wouldn't work.

Did they show aggression before?

The only thing i can see is that the clowns will probably get upset later and commit genocide on on the other fish. Especially if one of those clowns transition to a female.

One is already a female however she is still not too big she’s bigger than my male but neither of them are too territorial honestly the only aggression I see from the clownfish is when I stick my hand in the tank lol!

 

[Uncle99]

For ick, only copper, hypo or ttm treatments are proven effective.
All else is just a gamble.

 

[jmoney7]

For ick, only copper, hypo or ttm treatments are proven effective.
All else is just a gamble.

Yeah I got copper unfortunately the tang has already passed I’m setting up a qt tank rn to put the rest in and treat with copper then leave tank fallow for 6-8 weeks

 

[Uncle99]

Yeah I got copper unfortunately the tang has already passed I’m setting up a qt tank rn to put the rest in and treat with copper then leave tank fallow for 6-8 weeks

Sorry for your loss.
Good luck.

 

[JayM]

So I have got copper now. I still would like to know if my fish would be ok in my 13.5 gallon evo for 6-8 weeks while they go through qt procedures and then stay in there a little while longer. All my fish are still juvenile. Its 2 chalk bass, a royal gramma, and 2 occelaris clowns. 5 fish now unfortunately the tang passed.

It won’t be ideal, but as long as there’s no territorial aggression issues, you’ll be fine. Just be prepared to keep a close eye on ammonia levels and have plenty of water pre-mixed and ready to use.

I recently had the same situation but had to use a 10 gallon with 6 fish.

 

[jmoney7]

It won’t be ideal, but as long as there’s no territorial aggression issues, you’ll be fine. Just be prepared to keep a close eye on ammonia levels and have plenty of water pre-mixed and ready to use.

I recently had the same situation but had to use a 10 gallon with 6 fish.

Yeah I just finished setting it up I have biological filtration media from main tank to help filter the ammonia but am also gonna make some water incase ammonia spike. I now know why people should qt before the put it in a display tank full of rock and coral. What a pain. I have the copper at 2.54 according to my Hanna tester. Have an ammonia reader in there and hoping my fish don’t die.

 

[jmoney7]

It won’t be ideal, but as long as there’s no territorial aggression issues, you’ll be fine. Just be prepared to keep a close eye on ammonia levels and have plenty of water pre-mixed and ready to use.

I recently had the same situation but had to use a 10 gallon with 6 fish.

Is 1.021 salinity ok while using copper?

 

[JayM]

Is 1.021 salinity ok while using copper?

I honestly don’t know. That would be better answered by a #fishmedic