Tang problem, here we go again

[melypr1985]

Yeah he's still not eating. My last one did the same thing. Not sure if it was the disease or copper. I'm contemplating just putting him in the tank in a few days. I mean, unless he's just going to die, I don't see disease. None of them are flashing or rubbing. He seemed completely normal before the cupramine. I'm going to pick up some coppersafe today. I hear it's a little less harsh. Thought?

Finish out the prazi first. You just went through this whole big ordeal to get your tank clean and parasite free! Please dont take the chance. At a minimum do a fresh water dip and see if the flukes are present.

 

[Breakthecycle2]

Yeah I know. You're right. I did add a second round of prazi. I'll let that finish up and take it from there. I do not feel comfortable doing a FW dip. Every time I do, fish die.

 

[tripdad]

You did not mention it but is there a skimmer or airstone on the qt tank, tangs a very sensitive to good oxygenation of the water. Just a thought from my own past.

 

[melypr1985]

Yeah I know. You're right. I did add a second round of prazi. I'll let that finish up and take it from there. I do not feel comfortable doing a FW dip. Every time I do, fish die.

Oh good. I didn't want to watch you go through all that just to take a risk like this at the finish line ya know? I get it with the dips, they make me really nervous too. Don't know why, they just do.

 

[Breakthecycle2]

You did not mention it but is there a skimmer or airstone on the qt tank, tangs a very sensitive to good oxygenation of the water. Just a thought from my own past.

There is neither. Just a HOB and powerhead

 

[Breakthecycle2]

He still really breathing rapidly and fast, but swimming somewhat. This sucks..........

 

[4FordFamily]

I would rather you kill this fish than infect a DT. It's a hard way to look at things but in the end unfortunately it's often the best approach. Let's put it this way - putting him in the DT won't save him, it will further stress a stressed fish and will likely kill it. AND your tank will likely have ich or you risk other parasites. It's just not worth it.

 

[Breakthecycle2]

I would rather you kill this fish than infect a DT. It's a hard way to look at things but in the end unfortunately it's often the best approach. Let's put it this way - putting him in the DT won't save him, it will further stress a stressed fish and will likely kill it. AND your tank will likely have ich or you risk other parasites. It's just not worth it.

I bought some coppersafe, should I dose with the Prazi I already dosed? I know it's probably stupid, but I'd like to do anything I can.

 

[Humblefish]

I bought some coppersafe, should I dose with the Prazi I already dosed?

You can but increase gas exchange.

 

[Breakthecycle2]

You can but increase gas exchange.

Even though there might be residual cupramine left over in the tank? Also, how do I increase gas exchange?

 

[Humblefish]

Even though there might be residual cupramine left over in the tank? Also, how do I increase gas exchange?

Add an air stone and run it full blast. Or point a PH towards the surface of the water. Anything to add more available O2. Combining meds typically depletes oxygen.

 

[Breakthecycle2]

Add an air stone and run it full blast. Or point a PH towards the surface of the water. Anything to add more available O2. Combining meds typically depletes oxygen.

I have a powerhead pointed at the service already. It's the coppersafe and cupramine going to be ok?

 

[Humblefish]

I have a powerhead pointed at the service already. It's the coppersafe and cupramine going to be ok?

You can't mix them together, if that's what you mean. You have to use one or the other.

 

[Breakthecycle2]

You can't mix them together, if that's what you mean. You have to use one or the other.

mo, I Meant I Dosed Cupramine Already, but Started Did A 30 Gallon Water Change And Ran Carbon For A day already. I only dosed 4ml

 

[Humblefish]

mo, I Meant I Dosed Cupramine Already, but Started Did A 30 Gallon Water Change And Ran Carbon For A day already. I only dosed 4ml

Did you test with a Seachem or Salifert copper test kit to ensure no detectable traces of copper were still present? Just want to be sure about this before you go adding Coppersafe.

 

[4FordFamily]

Did you test with a Seachem or Salifert copper test kit to ensure no detectable traces of copper were still present? Just want to be sure about this before you go adding Coppersafe.

X2.

I would not mix products. 80-90% water change should be close enough, hopefully.

I have used copper safe in the past but I've had fewer issues of sensitivity with cupramine.

 

[Breakthecycle2]

Very odd behavior. He's only coming out when im not around and I just saw him let the cleaner wrasse clean him.However, he's still not eating and still has rapid breathing. Maybe I'm being paranoid, I don't know.

 

[Breakthecycle2]

Very odd behavior. He's only coming out when im not around and I just saw him let the cleaner wrasse clean him.However, he's still not eating and still has rapid breathing. Maybe I'm being paranoid, I don't know.

Also,I shouldn't do any water changes for 72 hours after the prazi, right?

 

[Humblefish]

Also,I shouldn't do any water changes for 72 hours after the prazi, right?

Prazipro only needs 24 hrs to work it's magic, so you can resume doing WCs after that. It just lasts in the water for up to 72 hrs.

 

[Breakthecycle2]

Prazipro only needs 24 hrs to work it's magic, so you can resume doing WCs after that. It just lasts in the water for up to 72 hrs.

I see. Let me ask you, have you ever seen a fish with this kind of behavior? Stops eating and breaths rapidly but seems fine otherwise? He's out more njw then the latest two days, but still breathing funnt.