In no way does people studying prep for reef tanks and clearly reading about disease preps and then skipping them and then posting about dying fish and then resisting known safety preps tie into nurse interactions in a doctors office
also, cross off ammonia and nitrite from the list earlier of fish kill possibilities, it’s not.
At no time did a reef tank originally fail to control ammonia and then fish died, fish death from disease precedes ammonia spikes. Having an accurate list to check from helps…it’s consistently amazing how disease prep and consequence is prominent in the disease forum as an etiology but not outside the forum. new readers, dont build a large tank by skipping preps you’ve read about.
you are purposefully killing fish by skipping known preps you already read about, deserves no coddling. If you never heard about disease preps, or how outside the fish disease forum all the pros have the answers (but never actually work in the disease forum) then you’re forgiven, re fallow your disease vectored tank and begin.
The most important takeaway from this thread is take responsibility for for $1500 in fish placed into a ten thousand dollar 300 gallon aquarium, the sensitivity level in the face of harmful animal keeping is really hard to digest.
it’s ok if we disagree, doesn’t change my stance at all. if you decide today to go out and put the rarest African cat you could possibly own on the visa, you're expected to know how its diet and housing works and how to keep it alive with unique needs
A forum for discussing treatment and diagnosing saltwater reef fish.
www.reef2reef.com
that’s where we should base tank preps on before buying angels and tangs and all manner of non treated fish. The ability to produce accurate cycles and instant load carry has tripled diseased animal waste and LOSS patterns, yet the reading / studying public are skipping preps for the instant gratification more and more because so many folks who don’t do work in the disease forum pretend to have working options the public can consistently repeat.
You’d all just as quickly deride someone for doing a fish-in cycle due to ammonia burning (doesn’t happen, bottle bac works) and never mention the disease aspect, groupthink has a grip here. nothing is changing to lower fish loss waste in the hobby, quit doing the cause over and over and back patting each other afterwards would be my consistent recommend. This thread is operant conditioning gold in our cycling threads. You’d be amazed how many cyclers are reading up on this controversy, I bet the result is we get a few more quarantiners out of a group of folks who may not have.
You simply must have a disease protocol in place, even if its not quarantine based. Be accountable for best practices. It is just as required for you to have a disease plan in place to be a responsible reef owner as it is for you to understand the basics of fishkeeping before setting up the tank, such as cycling rules.
I just saw a reef tank in person this week that uses the protocol of higher temps maintained in the tank to suppress disease expression, they dont aim to totally eliminate vectoring, the tank is warmer than usual. its working quite nicely, that's a plan in place being executed and it didnt involve quarantining. respectable. She prepped for her mixed fish load by implementing a strategy she found from trusted reefing friends and several patterned reports, she did not just set up a reef and add in all the fish.
cycle portion was no risk at all bottle bac has you taken care of.
The most pressing issue in any cycling thread is the fish disease aspect, its not the actual cycle, those can't be messed up at all. Disease emergence is this serious. Besides, you wont have access to as many repeat buy fish now that supplies are crunched, you'd better preserve the ones already bought.
