Pepcrylic
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Anyone have experience in QTing a new fish using the tank transfer method? If so how did you go about it. How often do you transfer? Did you medicate? How did you clean the tank in between rotation ?
Tank Transfer QT Method??
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Jlobes
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im on the fence with TTM. seems pretty stressful for new arrivals, especially after the shipping experience. It works for fighting ich, but not much else, unless you medicate. At that point, why not just have a cycled tank set up and treat in there, then WC, clean and carbon for the next/new fish.
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Pepcrylic
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I do have a QT set up at this time. I added a Powder Blue today. I will observe the fish to be sure he does not break out in ich, But if he does , then I will need to treat him. Just not sold on the idea of him liveing in a copper solution is the least stressful way to get rid of ich. Also some say that the copper is not good for their gut.
Trying to figure out a good stressless plan -B-
Trying to figure out a good stressless plan -B-
Jlobes
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totally on board with that!! Ive just got my 120DT started, and trying to decide the best QT method for all incoming fish. I have a QT set up and running, with a PJ card in there to keep it rolling. got my first fish coming in next week....
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I haven't researched Powder Blues and Chloroquine Phosphate but that is what I use in my qt-tank.
I guess some fish don't do well in it either.
I guess some fish don't do well in it either.
I do TTM on all my fish. I think the stress concerns are unfounded.
I have two inexpensive 10 gallon tanks with AquaClear 30 gallon HOB filters. These are stored in my garage in totes and set up when needed. I also have a 29 gallon cycled QT tank.
Here is my strategy. For fish that have reputation for being easy to get to eat (for me wrasses and tangs) the new fish go straight in to the TTM 10 gallons. They are filled with water from the DT (just do a water change and use the old water in the TTM tanks) but you could use new salt water. I have several pieces of PVC in the tanks and a small tray of sand for sand sleeping fish. The filter just has filter floss in it. There is an ammonia badge and heater in the tank as well. Standard TTM for 12 days. Changing tanks every 72 hours and drying emptyed tank for at least 24 hours before refilling. When finished with TTM they go in the cycled 29 gallon for about 4-5 weeks. Usually treat with Prazi X 2-3 during this time (especially wrasses). By the time they come out of QT they are fat, unafraid and associate me with food.
For delicate or picky eating fish they go straight to the 29 gallon. Once they are fat, happy and acclimated to captive life they go through TTM and then straight to the DT. If I go to the cycled tank first I leave it fallow for 72 days. Hassle but worth it to ensure it's Ich free and getting that rare or delicate fish safely to the DT
I have done TTM on as many as 3 fish at a time with this set up without problem. Just completed TTM on a flame wrasse, a pintail wrasse and a juvie Atlantic Blue tang. They have been in the cycled QT for 3 weeks and will be in the DT by Christmas. The video below of them was the first feeding in TTM.
This is my Potter's wrasse who got the "delicate/picky" treatment.
I have two inexpensive 10 gallon tanks with AquaClear 30 gallon HOB filters. These are stored in my garage in totes and set up when needed. I also have a 29 gallon cycled QT tank.
Here is my strategy. For fish that have reputation for being easy to get to eat (for me wrasses and tangs) the new fish go straight in to the TTM 10 gallons. They are filled with water from the DT (just do a water change and use the old water in the TTM tanks) but you could use new salt water. I have several pieces of PVC in the tanks and a small tray of sand for sand sleeping fish. The filter just has filter floss in it. There is an ammonia badge and heater in the tank as well. Standard TTM for 12 days. Changing tanks every 72 hours and drying emptyed tank for at least 24 hours before refilling. When finished with TTM they go in the cycled 29 gallon for about 4-5 weeks. Usually treat with Prazi X 2-3 during this time (especially wrasses). By the time they come out of QT they are fat, unafraid and associate me with food.
For delicate or picky eating fish they go straight to the 29 gallon. Once they are fat, happy and acclimated to captive life they go through TTM and then straight to the DT. If I go to the cycled tank first I leave it fallow for 72 days. Hassle but worth it to ensure it's Ich free and getting that rare or delicate fish safely to the DT
I have done TTM on as many as 3 fish at a time with this set up without problem. Just completed TTM on a flame wrasse, a pintail wrasse and a juvie Atlantic Blue tang. They have been in the cycled QT for 3 weeks and will be in the DT by Christmas. The video below of them was the first feeding in TTM.
This is my Potter's wrasse who got the "delicate/picky" treatment.
I do TTM on all my fish. I think the stress concerns are unfounded.
I have two inexpensive 10 gallon tanks with AquaClear 30 gallon HOB filters. These are stored in my garage in totes and set up when needed. I also have a 29 gallon cycled QT tank.
Here is my strategy. For fish that have reputation for being easy to get to eat (for me wrasses and tangs) the new fish go straight in to the TTM 10 gallons. They are filled with water from the DT (just do a water change and use the old water in the TTM tanks) but you could use new salt water. I have several pieces of PVC in the tanks and a small tray of sand for sand sleeping fish. The filter just has filter floss in it. There is an ammonia badge and heater in the tank as well. Standard TTM for 12 days. Changing tanks every 72 hours and drying emptyed tank for at least 24 hours before refilling. When finished with TTM they go in the cycled 29 gallon for about 4-5 weeks. Usually treat with Prazi X 2-3 during this time (especially wrasses). By the time they come out of QT they are fat, unafraid and associate me with food.
For delicate or picky eating fish they go straight to the 29 gallon. Once they are fat, happy and acclimated to captive life they go through TTM and then straight to the DT. If I go to the cycled tank first I leave it fallow for 72 days. Hassle but worth it to ensure it's Ich free and getting that rare or delicate fish safely to the DT
I have done TTM on as many as 3 fish at a time with this set up without problem. Just completed TTM on a flame wrasse, a pintail wrasse and a juvie Atlantic Blue tang. They have been in the cycled QT for 3 weeks and will be in the DT by Christmas. The video below of them was the first feeding in TTM.
This is my Potter's wrasse who got the "delicate/picky" treatment.
I've done the same as above with wrasses and it works really well.
I haven't used sand in the TTM tanks. Do you replace it every time you switch tanks?
Yeah, I do. It's surprising but it doesn't take a large container for them to find it and use it if they are sand sleepers (Halichoeres, Macropharyngodon, etc.)
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Pepcrylic
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How do you clean the sponge filter media in the HOB filter? Soak it in freshwater? run it thru the vinegar cleaning cycle. I would like to reuse it later down the line. I have new fresh sponges for all the transfers for now.
I bought new sponges for this TTM is it ok to use a cap full of Dr. Tims in each new Tank Transfer to establish a bio filter?
I bought new sponges for this TTM is it ok to use a cap full of Dr. Tims in each new Tank Transfer to establish a bio filter?
I do not use the sponge filters. I use poly floss (you can get in the sewing department at Wal Mart/Target/etc.) Just throw it away.
Certainly no harm in adding the Dr. Tims but you're not going to cultivate any significant bacterial filtration in 72 hours. Just monitor for ammonia and have some Amquel or Prime on hand to use if needed. I've never had any significant issue even when I did TTM on 3 pyramid butterfly fish who are sloppy, profuse eaters.
Certainly no harm in adding the Dr. Tims but you're not going to cultivate any significant bacterial filtration in 72 hours. Just monitor for ammonia and have some Amquel or Prime on hand to use if needed. I've never had any significant issue even when I did TTM on 3 pyramid butterfly fish who are sloppy, profuse eaters.
I've done TTM on all my fish. It never caused much stress and I never had an ammonia issues within the 72 hour span. Never had to dose prime either. I've also combined 45 min formalin dips between transfers as well as dosing prazi on transfer#2 and #4.
I do TTM on all my fish. I think the stress concerns are unfounded.
I have two inexpensive 10 gallon tanks with AquaClear 30 gallon HOB filters. These are stored in my garage in totes and set up when needed. I also have a 29 gallon cycled QT tank.
Here is my strategy. For fish that have reputation for being easy to get to eat (for me wrasses and tangs) the new fish go straight in to the TTM 10 gallons. They are filled with water from the DT (just do a water change and use the old water in the TTM tanks) but you could use new salt water. I have several pieces of PVC in the tanks and a small tray of sand for sand sleeping fish. The filter just has filter floss in it. There is an ammonia badge and heater in the tank as well. Standard TTM for 12 days. Changing tanks every 72 hours and drying emptyed tank for at least 24 hours before refilling. When finished with TTM they go in the cycled 29 gallon for about 4-5 weeks. Usually treat with Prazi X 2-3 during this time (especially wrasses). By the time they come out of QT they are fat, unafraid and associate me with food.
For delicate or picky eating fish they go straight to the 29 gallon. Once they are fat, happy and acclimated to captive life they go through TTM and then straight to the DT. If I go to the cycled tank first I leave it fallow for 72 days. Hassle but worth it to ensure it's Ich free and getting that rare or delicate fish safely to the DT
I have done TTM on as many as 3 fish at a time with this set up without problem. Just completed TTM on a flame wrasse, a pintail wrasse and a juvie Atlantic Blue tang. They have been in the cycled QT for 3 weeks and will be in the DT by Christmas. The video below of them was the first feeding in TTM.
This is my Potter's wrasse who got the "delicate/picky" treatment.
I would type a response, but this post would be it. Lol I think I've typed almost that same thing a few times aside from the tank sizes. Couldn't agree more.
A side note for the cycled quarantine... Since your doing ttm after using that tank with each fish, you dont really need to wait a fallow period in between uses. Unless you come across velvet or something bad and fast like that. But good work, and beautiful fish!
Yeah I could just put them all in the cycled first. I guess I do it this way because I used to have two cycled QT's one that was "dirty" (all fish got treated for Ich with TTM after being observed there) and a clean cycled QT that was where hardy fish went after TTM upon arrival. I broke down the "clean" tank because we are moving soon and my wife didn't like it's "unsophisticated" look in the office.
