Tank unlevel by 1/16"

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Setting up a new RSR 350 but it looks like the back is higher by 1/16"(1.59 mm) with just the tank and stand. Is this within reasonable tolerance now, or should I fill with rocks (50 lbs) and water before making a decision to shim.

Also, should I be shimming the cabinet feet/pegs or the wood stand itself in the front if so?

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throw a 2 foot level on it and adjust the leveling feet accordingly.. Id check it every few inches of water level to verify its still level. a slight lean toward the wall isn't terrible but the more level you can make it early on the more constant it will stay down the road.. If it has adjustable feet to level off use them otherwise shims in each corner will work just fine. just make small adjustments and check often
 
I doubt 1/16" will make that big a difference. If it's off by 1/8 or more then I would strive to get more level.

As TheEngineer alluded to already, it may even be level and the back may just be assembled/cut in such a way that it is 1/16 taller than the front.

If it is not quite level and you decide to shim to try and get it perfect, do the leveling before you put any rock or water in it ... and put the shims under the cabinet feet.

I'm assuming your using the Red Sea stand that came with the tank. I've not seen one in person, but if they put feet on it, then they designed the feet to hold the weight. Just be sure that each foot is solidly resting on a shim or the floor so that the weight is evenly distributed among all the feet ... just as it would be if you weren't shimming and all the feet were simply resting on the floor.
 
I thought the red sea reefers had leveling feet on the cabinets. Adjust them so the tank is level and recheck as you fill.

You also want to check level side to side and make sure you don't have a racking condition. That is worse than a little off level.
 
Shim the front of that tank, or use any leveling legs so the top of the tank is level.
 
Is it level?

It's within the lines but touching one edge.. Both a 4ft and 1ft level produce similar results, but I guess I didn't factor in needing a 2ft level. To be clear the lean is towards the front of the aquarium away from the wall.

The feet are simply little pegs built into the frame that aren't adjustable on the 350 and below as far as I know. I am using the Red Sea 350 stand.


You also want to check level side to side and make sure you don't have a racking condition. That is worse than a little off level.
Not sure what a racking condition means.
 
It's within the lines but touching one edge.. Both a 4ft and 1ft level produce similar results, but I guess I didn't factor in needing a 2ft level. To be clear the lean is towards the front of the aquarium away from the wall.

The feet are simply little pegs built into the frame that aren't adjustable on the 350 and below as far as I know. I am using the Red Sea 350 stand.



Not sure what a racking condition means.


This is exaggerated, but this is what will crack a tank. Not a little off front and back. It's called a racked stand, or tank.

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This is exaggerated, but this is what will crack a tank. Not a little off front and back. It's called a racked stand, or tank.

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This is correct ! front to back or left to right is ok. 1/16th is probably be Ok at 1st but down the road it will split a seam somewhere,sometime .
 
Thanks all for the replies, but are we saying that improperly shimming will create this racking effect? I guess at this point I'm still not sure if I should shim or not.
 
A 4' level is more than sufficient to check how level your tank is. Should be plenty long enough to set across the tank width-wise, length-wise, and across both diagonals (left-front corner to right-rear corner, and right-front to left-rear).

If you are only seeing a difference from back to front, odds are your floor has a little sag to it as you move further away from the wall, causing the tank to lean in that 1/16". If it were me, I wouldn't worry about it.

If you are worried about it though, you could shim the feet in the front 1/16" and then any feet on the sides that are no longer touching the floor will need slimmer shims (less than 1/16) as well. (E.g. No foot should have an air gap beneath it, each foot should have support beneath it.)

Or, if it'll sooth your nerves a bit, you could shoot Red Sea customer support an email and ask them if being off front-to-back by 1/16 is something you should be concerned about.

As far as a twisted or 'racked' stand top goes, you can check this by getting a level or other item that is known to be a perfectly straight, non-flexing edge and moving it across the top in different directions to make sure there are no dips or rises in the top. E.g. it's perfectly flat.

At the end of the day though, IMHO, people let emotion feed their worries rather than letting logic keep them in check.

Red Sea knows ordinary, non-engineering folks are going to buy and set up their aquariums. It's a safe bet, they've engineered the joints and construction of the tank with a safety factor to account for the 1,000s of set-ups out there that won't be absolutely 100% perfectly level.

Likewise, they've designed and QC'd the stand and its top to be within a specific flatness tolerance to prevent stress on the tank.

Unless your top looks to be noticeably out-of-flatness, or your are setting it up on very uneven flooring that will allow the stand to essentially twist as weight is applied to it, it will probably be just fine.
 
Thanks @malacoda and again everyone for their input. I reached out to Red Sea the other day, so we'll see what they say. I think I'll go forward and fill it and keep an eye on things over time.
 

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