Temp programming

[slipknotgrrl83]

I just bought an apex a week ago and been reading up on setting temp. I do not have a chiller just a fan. I would like to maintain temp 78.5 to 79.5. What would be the best to set everything to. Right now I have heater on at 78.1 off at 78.7 and fan on at 79.7 off at 79.5. Both set off and Fallback off as my heater has no internal thermostat. Working on getting a new heater soon though. I have my alarms set to warn me if above 81 or under 76 and for the failsafe if under 75 which is ambient room temp. Any input? I am a newb with this kinda stuff!

 

[ngvu1]

Not sure what the best is but this is my heater outlet
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Fallback OFF
If Temp > 74 Then OFF
Min Time 002:00 Then OFF
If Temp < 73.5 Then ON
Min Time 001:00 Then ON
If Temp < 30.0 Then OFF
If Power Apex Off 000 Then OFF

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Replace hi-temp(74) with a number like 78.1; and low-temp(73.5) like 78.7
My hi-temp is 74 and my low temp is 73.5 (I don't like using heater much)

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My fan outlet. I keep the tank 76-78 this time of the year
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Fallback OFF
If Temp > 77.9 Then ON
Min Time 002:00 Then OFF
If Temp < 76.3 Then OFF
Min Time 001:00 Then ON
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[slipknotgrrl83]

What does the min time portion mean exactly? And the power off I assume means kill heater ?

 

[Drauka99]

The Min Time code he is using basiclly makes the heater stay on for atleast 2 minutes each time it is triggered.

I recommend using a bigger variance between off and on that .2 degrees. I used .5 and thats tighter than is really needed, with .2 your heater or fan will be cycling on and off even more than mine.

Here is my Heater Code

Fallback OFF
If Temp < 77.5 Then ON
If Temp > 78.0 Then OFF
If Temp < 70.0 Then OFF

Here is my fan code

Fallback OFF
If Temp > 78.5 Then ON
If Temp < 78.0 Then OFF
If Temp > 85.0 Then OFF


Both have a redundancy in case the temp probe is acting up. If the temp suddenly drops below 70 (I should probably change that to 74) the heater will stay off. If the temp suddenly jumps above 85 in the tank then the Fan will stay off. I once had a cat chew through the temp cable and the Aquacontroller read 99 degrees for the temp and my fan ran most of the day, luckily the tank only got to 75 or so but still I want to avoid that now.

 

[slipknotgrrl83]

So do like 005:00 for 5 min? Also another question. When power is lost ( I had a power outage for like 5 min yesterday) my controller never really reconnected to fusion, I had to manually unplug and plug in again. That seems bad especially if I'm not home. I haven't updated firmware yet because it's running of a bridge and I need to get wire long enough to hook up to router to update..

 

[slipknotgrrl83]

So do like 005:00 for 5 min? Also another question. When power is lost ( I had a power outage for like 5 min yesterday) my controller never really reconnected to fusion, I had to manually unplug and plug in again. That seems bad especially if I'm not home. I haven't updated firmware yet because it's running of a bridge and I need to get wire long enough to hook up to router to update..

 

[Drauka99]

I am not really following, I am assuming you are trying to allow time for the router to come back up before the wireless bridge comes up. You would need the power to the bridge on a eb8 plug and then a Defer command for 5 minutes to do what I think you want.

your code for that plug would read something like

If Power Apex Off 000 Then OFF
If Power Apex ON 000 then ON
Defer 005:00 then ON

This code would cause the wireless bridge to wait 5 minutes after a power outage to turn the wireless bridge back on.

Personally I am planning to simply pick up a couple battery backups and put on on the router and the other on the apex and wireless bridge for short term power outages.

 

[slipknotgrrl83]

That's what I think I will do... I have a generator so this would be just to alert me if I'm not home and give me some time to get it up in running. Ups are expensive for the ones that would be needed to run modem router bridge ND tank stuff. Thank you

 

[ngvu1]

Hopefully your router and modem and the apex are near each other. $100 is saving you a lot of headache. I have seen many people having issue with power loss and the apex goes nuts after. The ups will save you from all these minor power issues.....

That's what I think I will do... I have a generator so this would be just to alert me if I'm not home and give me some time to get it up in running. Ups are expensive for the ones that would be needed to run modem router bridge ND tank stuff. Thank you

 

[slipknotgrrl83]

That's the issue... they aren't

 

[ngvu1]

I lost power before I got the UPS, but mine came back with no problems. ...luck

You can even get away with the cheap UPS...like $65. UPS also helps with power spike/glitch which often is the cause of the apex goes nuts after......

That's the issue... they aren't

 

[slipknotgrrl83]

I lost power before I got the UPS, but mine came back with no problems. ...luck

You can even get away with the cheap UPS...like $65. UPS also helps with power spike/glitch which often is the cause of the apex goes nuts after......

Thanks, I'll look on amazon, see what I can find. Get one for upstairs for Internet devices and one for apex downstairs

 

[p7willm]

One thing to remember. If you plug the energy bar into the UPS then the Apex will not know there is a power failure and it will run along fine, until the battery in the UPS runs out then it will shut off.

The Apex head unit has an DC voltage input, I thing 12V but check first, and if you supply power there the Apex will know when the energy bar looses power and, if your internet is still up, you need battery backup here, it can send an email.

 

[slipknotgrrl83]

Thanks