Testing RO water, is this possible?

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I have read a few post where people say that testing RO is not possible with the test kits we use as they give false readings. Is this true as I can detect Nitrate when my DI resin needs changing and as soon as I change the DO resin, I test no Nitrates.
 
There is different test for nitrate in fresh water (RO -water is fresh water) and saltwater because of chlorids affect the result. But if you only use it for detecting if you should change your resin or not - you will get an idea of this but the actual figure is probably wrong if you use the salt water adapted test

Sincerely Lasse
 
Curious, I have done freshwater tests on RO/DI water but now I am wondering if the post DI water would affect the test differently than say tap water? If I am phrasing that correctly.
 
Chloride levels above 40 - 50 ppm affect the readings in most of the common tests. Normally you can use freshwater tests in order to test RO water correctly. Salt water test is normally adapted for the interference of chlorides - therefor will give the wrong readings if you use them in RO water

Sincerely Lasse
 
Testing issues aside, nitrate levels seem like a poor way to monitor a DI resin. You may get a lot of ammonia or silicate or other things before much nitrate.
Agreed, and I was wondering if I should go out and buy a few more different test kits to start testing my RO water rather than assuming it is OK when seeing a zero TDS reading. I am going to drop Salifert an email to ask them if their test kits are meant for RO as it does say they are OK for freshwater.
 
Agreed, and I was wondering if I should go out and buy a few more different test kits to start testing my RO water rather than assuming it is OK when seeing a zero TDS reading. I am going to drop Salifert an email to ask them if their test kits are meant for RO as it does say they are OK for freshwater.

I don’t think I’ve seen a case where 0 ppm tds RO/DI has too much of anything in it, assuming it started with drinkable water.
 
So just to confirm, 0 TDS should not have any phosphate, nitrate or silicate in it?

It doesn't mean that, exactly. It means you will not have "too much" of anything, including those. If your test is good enough, you may see them, but if the amounts added are low (say, 1/100th of the amount added in foods in the same time period), it is insignificant.

For phosphate, I discuss that here:

Aquarium Chemistry: Phosphate And Math: Yes You Need To Understand Both
https://www.advancedaquarist.com/2012/3/chemistry

from it;


Comparison of Food Sources of Phosphate to Other Sources
What about other sources of phosphate, like the "crappy" RO/DI water containing 0.05 ppm phosphate? A similar analysis will show it equally unimportant relative to foods.

Let's assume that the aquarist in question adds 1% of the total tank volume each day with RO/DI to replace evaporation. Simple math shows that the 0.05 ppm in the RO/DI becomes 0.0005 ppm added each day to the phosphate concentration in the aquarium. That dilution step is critical, taking a scary number like 0.05 ppm down to an almost meaningless 0.0005 ppm daily addition. Since that 0.0005 ppm is 40-600 times lower than the amount added each day in foods (Table 4), it does not seem worthy of the angst many aquarists put on such measurements. That said, tap water could have as much as 5 ppm phosphate, and that value could then become a dominating source of phosphate and would be quite problematic. Purifying tap water is important for this and many other reasons.
 
When you send a tank water sample to ATI for ICPOES analysis, you also send a sample of your RODI water, which they analyze at no additional charge. The water coming out of my system is always 0 TDS on both inline and handheld meters (0-1 after membrane, 0 after 1st DI, 0 after 2nd DI.) However, that doesn't necessarily mean that there's absolutely nothing in it. Even with 0 TDS on a TDS meter, my experience is that ICP testing can still show traces of various things sneaking through, commonly silicon and also zinc. But the amounts present are so small that I doubt they are typically of much consequence, as RHF points out, even when considering the potential concentrating effect of chronic water topoffs.

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Many thanks for the responses above, much appreciated as I think I was going down a rabbit hole with this! I think as long as I change the resin in my first RI cartridge as soon as I see 1 TDS, anything that is getting through will be stripped from my second DI cartridge or is so insignificant that it does not make difference.
 
Many thanks for the responses above, much appreciated as I think I was going down a rabbit hole with this! I think as long as I change the resin in my first RI cartridge as soon as I see 1 TDS, anything that is getting through will be stripped from my second DI cartridge or is so insignificant that it does not make difference.

Sounds good.

Happy reefing. :)
 

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