thawd fish food time limit

[Sabellafella]

As many of you know, i troop about an hour to get some @LRSS for my fishies every other month. I NEVER LET MY FOOD THAW, or even get the slightest bit of freezer burn. I even go the extra mile to cut a weeks worth of cubes so i dont have to keep vacum sealing the lrs bag. I apparently had to stop at starbucks if my life depended on it on the drive home, in witch that extra 25 minutes basically defrosted my pack completely.
total time from corners defrosting first was about 40 minutes

Question is, i know nothing about this other then my food needs to be frozen at all times without freezer burn. My fish dont have food unless i take another 2 hour troop. Can i still refreeze and use it? It was still very cold, just a small area in the center was still frozen. Is it a risk if i do? Explain why. Thanks everyone!

 

[brandon429]

if you exposed it to the air to assess that, then yes I must vote if you refreeze it you are potentially locking in bacteria that will both degrade the food when warmed/rehydrated or they can present illness via metabolites in the food or as direct issues when fish ingest them. standard contamination although such acts wouldn't kill my dog, and fish may not be as susceptible either. The places that process fish feed aren't as stringently regulated as human feed industries so that alone means any type of thaw of their product probably allows the bac to take off quite well. its a tricky call you have to make. refreeze, then put one in a test cup and see if it stinks real bad in 24 hours, that's a fair assessment of bacterial degredation. my good frozen cubes would not stink within 24 hours, they'd just smell like fish etc.

if you didn't have to open the pack to assess that because it was clear plastic, refreeze is my call. you wouldn't have added extra bac by assessing the sealed container, but w be playing luck off how sterile they are in their packaging process. for your challenge I like the idea of rehydrate, assess color and smell details 36 hours later.

 

[Sabellafella]

if you exposed it to the air to assess that, then yes I must vote if you refreeze it you are potentially locking in bacteria that will both degrade the food when warmed/rehydrated or they can present illness via metabolites in the food or as direct issues when fish ingest them. standard contamination although such acts wouldn't kill my dog, and fish may not be as susceptible either. The places that process fish feed aren't as stringently regulated as human feed industries so that alone means any type of thaw of their product probably allows the bac to take off quite well. its a tricky call you have to make. refreeze, then put one in a test cup and see if it stinks real bad in 24 hours, that's a fair assessment of bacterial degredation. my good frozen cubes would not stink within 24 hours, they'd just smell like fish etc.

if you didn't have to open the pack to assess that because it was clear plastic, refreeze is my call. you wouldn't have added extra bac by assessing the sealed container, but w be playing luck off how sterile they are in their packaging process.

Package is completely sealed shut. I have no idea what to do. I just got done refreezing it. If it smells ill just toss it out.

 

[kennedpa]

Freeze thaw breaks down cells over time, proteins and other things included as well. This is something we try to avoid in the research world. So, aside from this I wouldn't see any issue with the food that wouldn't have already been present. Food spoiling takes more than just that. Even if you had opened the pack, air is relatively sterile. Unless you happened to have something that would be pathogenic on yourself and touched it, or sneezed a bunch of boogers on it even if opened it's still fine.

 

[brandon429]

Id vote refreeze based on the clean assess
We had to run our meat bac samples inside pressured rooms to avoid air contamination, it was just a habit developed from running true clean work. merely an aseptic technique preference, its all kind of a guess anyway. I bet these fish are pretty tough in the end for whatever you choose.

I feed my reef exclusively freezer burnt cyclopeeze and no harm lol though corals probably handle degredations better than fish not sure. for the times I left mine out on the counter and thawed, I did not refreeze. the freezer burn white however outnumbers the actual feed mass so that's pretty lowball feeding. the brain coral would probably like an update lol, perhaps a fresh mysid he'd think he was given a steak dinner.

 

[jsker]

Here you go Link

 

[Sabellafella]

Here you go Link

Always seem to amaze me man keep it up. Thank you!

 

[jsker]

Always seem to amaze me man keep it up. Thank you!

Just thaw it cold Usually 24 in a residential refrigeration.

Glad to see you back man!

 

[Sabellafella]

So i guess it wouldnt harm to just feed this throught the week untill i take a trip out to get more. I litterally came across this on my ride home today, the food usually barely defrost even on the hour ride home. but not today!

 

[Sabellafella]

Just thaw it cold Usually 24 in a residential refrigeration.

Glad to see you back man!

Thank you, yea ill be on here and there. Another 3 weeks ill be done doing what im doing at home. Plus i got reefapalooza this weekend =)

 

[jsker]

Thank you, yea ill be on here and there. Another 3 weeks ill be done doing what im doing at home. Plus i got reefapalooza this weekend =)

Live video please

 

[Sabellafella]

Live video please

Haha, maybe i will. Theyll be a few people with me that will be doing live for there channel, i already asked them about r2r. Once i get the link tom ill put it up

 

[Cory]

Yeah id say frozen food should be fine to refreeze not longer than 24 hours because a freeze will kill any bacteria anyway.

 

[jsker]

Haha, maybe i will. Theyll be a few people with me that will be doing live for there channel, i already asked them about r2r. Once i get the link tom ill put it up

Just have some fun, and enjoy.