The Angel Lovers Thread

[The guppy guru]

They can breed, if you plan on pairing, make sure the one you get is smaller, and maybe use an acclimation box so they both can get used to each other without hurting one another, to reduce initial agression.

Ok thanks very much.

 

[Thomashtom]

That's a great looking set up! I'm relatively new to saltwater aquariums and have had my 75g FOWLR up for about 4 and a half months now. I just got a bicolor dwarf angel and am looking for thoughts on adding a flame angel. Would like to wait a month or so, but seeing as how you have multiple angels in your tank, how'd you do it and do you have any advice? Also, is a 75g too small for multiple angels? I do a 15% PWC every week, but I don't know if more angels would need more water changed or just a bigger tank... Thanks!

You might be pushing it with a 75 gallon tank!!! Maybe small dwarf angels?

 

[najer]

Pest!

 

[OrionN]

So I have a coral beauty anglefish and I wanted to know, if it was possible to get another one for my 150 gallon mixed reef? And can they breed if I get a pair?

Centropyge angels are protogynous hermaphrodites, but does have bidirectional sex change. If you put tow small ones, or another small one or 2 or 3 in your tank, they will form a harem and spawn. in order to breed them, you are going to need to raise the fry, which is doable but not easy.

 

[Devaji]

Let me ask you angel lovers this,

How many dwarfs and you add to a 300 gal with say 50 sump =350 total FOWLR system if they whet QT and added together?

other tanks makes would be 5 ish or so butterflies, emp angle, regal and a few tangs.

 

[OrionN]

Which species? You don't really have to add them at the same time, just add the juveniles one at a time.
I added my Flame Angels two then one more than the 4th one. My system have two Regal Angels, one Purple, Yellow and Powder Blue tangs, a Harlequin Tusk and about 20 wrasses all in a 320 DT with 100 gal sump. It is a mixed reef instead of FOWLR

 

[Devaji]

Which species? You don't really have to add them at the same time, just add the juveniles one at a time.
I added my Flame Angels two then one more than the 4th one. My system have two Regal Angels, one Purple, Yellow and Powder Blue tangs, a Harlequin Tusk and about 20 wrasses all in a 320 DT with 100 gal sump. It is a mixed reef instead of FOWLR

a flame he starts to eat my reef.
coral beauty
ebili
multi bar?
nox
potters

IDK just a few dwarf for more color

 

[OrionN]

I don’t have experiences with multiple species. I only keep harem if Cetropege flame angels

 

[Devaji]

^ maybe someone with experience mixing Dwarfs will chime in.

 

[locito277]

^ maybe someone with experience mixing Dwarfs will chime in.

I kept a pair of flames with a potters. Introduced together though and they were good together for over a yr prior to my tank wiping out. They hybridize frequently so as long as you add them together you shouldn’t have an issue. How large is your tank?

 

[Devaji]

I kept a pair of flames with a potters. Introduced together though and they were good together for over a yr prior to my tank wiping out. They hybridize frequently so as long as you add them together you shouldn’t have an issue. How large is your tank?

cool! I was thinking if adding them at once after a QT.

well this is all a a thought right now but I have this unfinished basement redid a total gut on the house was not planed but ended up happening. we are almost done witha year long project so naturally I am thinking of that basement would make a really nice media room with large projector system ( nothing to crazy there ) & a large FOWLR. 240 min. but I am thinking of a 300 or 340 10' or going BIG with a plywood tank in the 500 to 720+ range. this would not happen until next winter that is if things pick back up with my biz.

 

[locito277]

That should be plenty of space. My flames paired and would spawn but the potters never really formed a harem per se

 

[The guppy guru]

Hey there I wanted to know if it was possible to breed dwarf angles? Like make a hybrid, say if it is possible to cross breed two species of dwarf angles like a coral beaut and a flame angle. I just want to know if it’s possible to make a hybrid of two other species of dwarf angles.

 

[The guppy guru]

Are there any ways to tell the gender of coral beauty angle fish and flame angles? If so can you please tell me.

 

[mattzang]

Hey there I wanted to know if it was possible to breed dwarf angles? Like make a hybrid, say if it is possible to cross breed two species of dwarf angles like a coral beaut and a flame angle. I just want to know if it’s possible to make a hybrid of two other species of dwarf angles.

https://reefbuilders.com/2020/02/12/bali-aquarich-goldflake-angelfish-hybrid-is-something-special/

 

[The guppy guru]

I ask this because I know that there is a hybrid angle fish called the tigerpyge angle fish.

 

[pcon]

Hey there I wanted to know if it was possible to breed dwarf angles? Like make a hybrid, say if it is possible to cross breed two species of dwarf angles like a coral beaut and a flame angle. I just want to know if it’s possible to make a hybrid of two other species of dwarf angles.

It is possible but very difficult to breed dwarf angels.
Some dwarf angelfish can hybridize within complexes but the centropyge genus is quite large and not all species in it are closely related.
I believe the only dwarf hybrids have been xiphypops or the pigmy angelfish, recently Andrew Gosch hybridized the cherub with African flame back, previously Frank Baensch has hybridized various pigmy including resplendent crossed with other pigmy angels. I don’t know of anyone successful with hybrids of other complex of dwarf angelfish.

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The Resplendent Cherubfish is a naturally impossible hybrid crossing of the mid-Atlantic resplendent angelfish, Centropyge resplendens, and the Caribbean cherub or pygmy angelfish, Centropyge argi.

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Are there any ways to tell the gender of coral beauty angle fish and flame angles? If so can you please tell me.

Flame angels can easily be sexed quick search of google or here will show pictures. @Orion frequently posts pictures of the males and females from his flame harem. Coral beauties cannot be readily sexed only exhibiting sexual dimorphism during spawning courtship.

 

[The guppy guru]

It is possible but very difficult to breed dwarf angels.
Some dwarf angelfish can hybridize within complexes but the centropyge genus is quite large and not all species in it are closely related.
I believe the only dwarf hybrids have been xiphypops or the pigmy angelfish, recently Andrew Gosch hybridized the cherub with African flame back, previously Frank Baensch has hybridized various pigmy including resplendent crossed with other pigmy angels. I don’t know of anyone successful with hybrids of other complex of dwarf angelfish.

Flameback Cherub Angelfish is a Captive Hybrid Cross from Nebraska! | Reef Builders | The Reef and Saltwater Aquarium Blog

The Flameback Cherubfish is a brand new captive breeding ‘first’ coming to us from the exotic locale of Nebraska. On the one hand we’ve kinda seen a fish like this before, but on the other the…

reefbuilders.com

Resplendent Cherubfish is a new captive bred hybrid pygmy angelfish from Reef Culture Technologies | Reef Builders | The Reef and Saltwater Aquarium Blog

The Resplendent Cherubfish is a naturally impossible hybrid crossing of the mid-Atlantic resplendent angelfish, Centropyge resplendens, and the Caribbean cherub or pygmy angelfish, Centropyge argi.

reefbuilders.com

Flame angels can easily be sexed quick search of google or here will show pictures. @Orion frequently posts pictures of the males and females from his flame harem. Coral beauties cannot be readily sexed only exhibiting sexual dimorphism during spawning courtship.

K thanks for the info

 

[mfollen]

Got rid of my zoanthid collection just so I can have angels again. They truly are the best fish on the reef with the most curiosity and personality. Very smart fish.

 

[canadianeh]

Is it possible to keep 3 dwarf angels specifically flame, coral beauty, and pygmy Red Sea Reefer 250?