The Angel Lovers Thread

Jeffcb · Jan 9, 2022

Can I add another Angel even though I already have a med/large Blue face?

i cant think · Jan 9, 2022

Jeffcb said:
Can I add another Angel even though I already have a med/large Blue face?

If the new Angel is juvenile it’s not impossible

Zionas · Jan 9, 2022

Do Centropyge do better in pairs or harems?

watdachuck · Jan 9, 2022

Jeffcb said:
Can I add another Angel even though I already have a med/large Blue face?

Sorry if you said already but how big is your tank?

Singspot · Jan 9, 2022

In 250G and up, you can keep multiple large angel if none of them are mean. I had a BF for 2 years and he was the BEST, never attached even once to any of 6 dwarf and 3 largw angels I added ... so it depends on tank size and your BF angel temperament.

Pilotmojo · Jan 9, 2022

Zionas said:
Best hope would be if Karen Britain decides to breed any more of them, but they won’t be cheap!

Do you have her profile name I can’t find her

Flame2hawk · Jan 9, 2022

Pilotmojo said:
Ah that bandit !!!!! My favorite fish ever. I think the window is closed on me ever getting one

Wow that is some collection of angels. Broke the bank but they are incredible! The Achilles one of my favs too!

LaloJ · Jan 9, 2022

Pilotmojo said:
Do you have her profile name I can’t find her

I'm not sure if she's here on the forum, but you can find her in RC as "paka".

ylreefer · Jan 12, 2022

Here's the big boy new addition to the recently converted reef to FOT.

LaloJ · Jan 12, 2022

ylreefer said:
Here's the big boy new addition to the recently converted reef to FOT.

Very beautiful guy.

LAReefer4Life · Jan 12, 2022

just upgraded to 250 display and I have a blueface, conspicuous, regal, tiger, true personifier, yellow eared angelfish. All under 5”.

Zionas · Jan 12, 2022

Woot woot! What are the dimensions if you don’t mind?

Among the Reef is a cool site but I by far prefer captive bred fish. Their captive bred Genicanthus Personatus costs a totally affordable 17 grand!

I love the Bandit Angel too. If only Bali Aquarich could captive breed them on a commercial scale. Poma Labs would also do well to get their hands on some broodstock for Regal, Goldflake, Tiger, and Bandit Angels.

LaloJ · Jan 12, 2022

Zionas, I remember the anecdote of Copps several years ago, about Frank Baensch who was close to raising C. hotumatua, that would have been crazy but unfortunately it was not the case, the situation with the bandit angelfish can be similar to some extent, subtropical fish, and finicky in maintenance, although C.hotumatua required even colder water.

Zionas · Jan 13, 2022

Even when the Waikiki Aquarium managed to acquire a wild specimen of the Easter Island Pygmy Angel, Hotuamatua was a very shy fish for them and it just disappeared after a few years. My books (you have them too) by Scott W. Michael says they don’t do too well in captivity. Bandits might be found in shallower water in the northeastern part of the Hawaii Islands but in the main islands yes I think they are most common below 45-50m (150-170 feet).

There’s lots of amazing fish that are unfortunately hard to produce in large numbers. I would be glad seeing more Centropyge and Chaetodontoplus, for example, as a start. If Genicanthus can be mass produced in captivity would also be great.

LaloJ · Jan 13, 2022

Just imagine G.semifasciatus raised in captivity, unreal. Well I think the reason why C.hotumatua is so absolutely rarely found in the hobby is due to its location on the map, very far away, in addition to its very cold water requirements, Copps did not want to adopt the partner that Frank had, He even had to refuse to try to keep them. If I remember correctly, the Hotumatua angelfish from the Waikiki Aquarium was kept alongside a Golden Angelfish that was pretty cryptic too ?? I don't remember that very well, and neither did I remember where I read it.

gary collins · Jan 13, 2022

Jeffcb said:
Can I add another Angel even though I already have a med/large Blue face?

you can, buy the smallest full juvenile you can get,they will ignore each other completely buttt

when they are full adult colours the trouble may start or not i have had 3 together,have 2 at the moment in an 700 gallon tank,but 1 is sectionied off due to aggression.