The future of filtration

[TherealplexiG]

Holyshamoly!
Someone has filed a patent and currently testing their BETA version to remove ammonia electro-chemically. It could change the way of fishkeeping. What are your thoughts on this?

They words:
"We have a patented technology that electro chemically removes ALL the ammonia from the water. Accordingly there is no Nitrite and Nitrate created. Our technology replaces the biofilter and as a result all the Ammonia, Nitrite and Nitrate are removed completely.
We are just finishing the research phase and scaling up our pilot/commercialization phase"

 

[Antics]

Sounds cool, but I don't know if an aquarium that never actually cycles is a good thing. What if it fails and you dont realize it? This doesnt even take into account the schools of thought that believe small amounts of Nitrate are important for coral growth and coloration.

Will be interesting to see if this ever makes it to market.

 

[TherealplexiG]

@Antics I agree to you in a way of making it to the market, currently they are processing it for marine breeding facilties of groupers and such..and in designing stage to downscale the product

Nitrates can be dosed! that wouldn't be an issue.

 

[Kungpaoshizi]

I was thinking about that, I dose calcium nitrate so, meh...
But I think it's somewhat comparable to zeolites... As long as it was adjustable tech, so you could dial in a certain degree removed, that would be ok.

 

[Reef Pets]

That would certainly be a game changer. We shall see.

 

[TherealplexiG]

As long as it was adjustable tech, so you could dial in a certain degree removed, that would be ok.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
That's what exactly its gonna be, i had a talk with the CEO of that isreali firm.

 

[Brew12]

Our technology replaces the biofilter and as a result all the Ammonia, Nitrite and Nitrate are removed completely.

This sounds a bit questionable. Testing along these lines has been going on for years using different materials. To the best of my knowledge, Nitrite and Nitrate are a byproduct of process. Granted, I haven't seen any measurements so it may be fairly negligible. Chlorine also has been a common byproduct using the electro-chemical method of removing ammonia.

 

[cloak]

"The Future of Filtration?" Didn't that book that say's how to keep a Goldfish alive say it all? Don't think too much about it...

 

[mcarroll]

Allow me to express a big NO THANKS.

Excess nitrate in a reef tank is a husbandry issue every single time.

It seems like the best reefs either have no nitrate issue or they have to add nitrates in some form (Aminos, stump remover, plant fertilizer, etc.)

Maybe the fish-only (no live rock) people and maybe fresh water people will be interested?

 

[TherealplexiG]

Few comments are intriguing. Only time will tell whether it works or not. Let them blow they money and brains to at least try creating some new stuff. Israel is well known for Marine husbandry, lets hope for something that can eliminate all the hassles.

 

[ReefingwithO]

Sounds interesting but I wonder if it affects the delicate balance of a reef ecosystem. Maybe nitrite and nitrate are needed.

 

[Cory]

Im uncertain if it could elctrochemicaly remove ammonia from seawater due to other ions interfering with its process.

@Randy Holmes-Farley

However id buy one if it works in seawater.

 

[TherealplexiG]

Anyone with large systems here? can anyone hook bill wann up? They are looking for BETA testers. This is the reply i got from them.

"Thank you for the information. Our technology is based on academic research done in the Israeli Technological institute – the Technion. We are in the process of establishing a company based on the technology. I believe that in a couple of months we will be a commercial company. Until we are a company, we cannot really sell any product, but it will be great to build the framework for collaboration in the meanwhile. In the immediate future we are aiming to concentrate on the large systems, as we are much more attractive there. What are the biggest aquariums in the hobby? Our technology was initially aimed for RAS salmon fish growing. We guaranty a very high water quality, and there are no harmful chemicals to the fish or human created in the water. As our technology was originally designed for RAS it is handling a very high density of fish in the water – up to 12% biomass of fish of the water volume. With intensive feeding. Obviously in aquariums we do not have these densities and this will allow us to scale down the product, and make it cheaper. What is the normal fish biomass per volume in aquariums in your experience? Or how much ammonia is created per day per liter or M3 of water? With your answers we can try and give you a better estimation of our product price for aquarium market."

Also require your insights to help them downscale the product.