Therapeutic level for Cupramine

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I just had a nasty outbreak of ich and decided to fallow my tank and at the same time dip all my sps to get rid of 2 pests at a go (ich and aefw). 6 weeks of dips then let the corals settle in for another 5 to 6 weeks before the fish go back in.

While my tank is fallow, I've set up a hospital tank to treat the remaining fish. 30 days of cupramine followed by prazi/metro treatment then observation for the remainder of the fallow period. I can't use chloroquine phosphate as I have sensitive wrasses and hogfish that don't tolerate it; can't do TTM as there are too many fish and I don't have a 2nd large enough tank; don't dare to do hyposalinity as it's too easy to go above 1.009 even though I have an ATO for the hospital tank.

Is 30 days in a freshly set up hospital tank sufficient? I intend to raise copper levels by 0.05 ppm every 2 days until I hit the right level then start the clock. The hospital tank was last used for a freshwater qt and was washed with tap water and dried before being used fir this hospital tank. Wavemaker has been dry in store for months. Sponge filters and air hoses are brand new.

I read in another forum that the actual therapeutic level for Coppersafe is 1.5 to 2 ppm (shockingly high!) despite what is written on the bottle. Seachem states 0.4 ppm to be the therapeutic level while I've read elsewhere that 0.25 ppm is the right level. Which is the actual right level to treat ich? I'm using the Seachem copper test kit.
 
0.4 - 0.5 mg/L is a safe therapeutic range for Cupramine IMO & E
Exactly. Chelated vs ionic copper. Cupramine is ionic and the best range IME is .45-.55
 
Copper safe is a different form of copper then cupramine so they have therye own therapeutic levels and test kits
You got the right test kit for your coppper choice tho.
https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/copper-treatment.193343/
Look here if you haven’t yet

0.4 - 0.5 mg/L is a safe therapeutic range for Cupramine IMO & E

Exactly. Chelated vs ionic copper. Cupramine is ionic and the best range IME is .45-.55

Thank you!

FYI, dipping coral does not eradicate ICH tomonts.

That's what the 11-12 week (77-84 days) fallow period is for. The dipping is to eradicate aefw from the corals.
 
therapeutic level

(.381) * (strength of dose) * (gallons being treated) = mL of Cupramine to dose

Example: (.381) * (.5mg/L) * (10.5 gallons) = 2mL of Cupramine to dose

It is advised by Cupramine that you bring up the levels slowly & not dose all at once.
 
Moust fish tolerante cupramine up to 0.8ml/l stay the manufactor. Not adviceabel over 0.6ml/l
 

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