Thinking Of Restarting

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I have had this tank running for easily over two years now, I am not sure if I am doing something wrong but algae has always been such a pain for me. I have tried lowering light time, more water changes less water changes. I have a commercial-grade reverse osmosis system so I don't think it's my water quality. I made some rookie mistakes with this tank like put some rock against the glass etc. What do you guys think I should do? Stack up on clean-up crew or something or just maybe restart?

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That's a lot of bubble algae

if you buy an army of emerald crabs, will your lfs let you give some back when you're done? or could you buy a couple and have them work on it slowly?
 
That's a lot of bubble algae

if you buy an army of emerald crabs, will your lfs let you give some back when you're done? or could you buy a couple and have them work on it slowly?
I know I dont mind the slow clean up at all, I just want it to look half decent before I start going for more fish etc, the tank is nice and mature I did that right but maybe ill bring in my water to the aquarium store and get them to test my water to answer BKKs question
 
Definitely worth having test kits if you’re in the hobby, without those numbers you won’t be able to fix your problem imo. I’d dip whatever was covered in algae in vinegar/water mix and manually remove what I can and run filter floss in your canister as a start
 
Definitely worth having test kits if you’re in the hobby, without those numbers you won’t be able to fix your problem imo. I’d dip whatever was covered in algae in vinegar/water mix and manually remove what I can and run filter floss in your canister as a start
I have at home testers actually im doing the nitrate one right now Ill see what it shows
 
Definitely worth having test kits if you’re in the hobby, without those numbers you won’t be able to fix your problem imo. I’d dip whatever was covered in algae in vinegar/water mix and manually remove what I can and run filter floss in your canister as a start
Nitrates and Phosphates
Nitrates I think is 0 no color change in the test at all so if not 0 very close to it I'm going to check phosphates in a moment
 
Nitrates I think is 0 no color change in the test at all so if not 0 very close to it I'm going to check phosphates in a moment
You have reef roids? Feed after a you scrub all the algae, very little amounts for consecutive days then wait about 3-4 days and retest. Worked for me.
 
You have reef roids? Feed after a you scrub all the algae, very little amounts for consecutive days then wait about 3-4 days and retest. Worked for me.
I do have reef roids! So scrub all algae and then put some in? target feed or sorta just dose into water and how long should I do it?
 
I wouldn't recommend a reboot until you get some routine testing in and understand your water parameters (namely nitrates and phosphates) or you could end up in the position (or with something worse - like cyano or dinos)

Sounds like you are starting to test, which is great - keep in mind test kits expire so check the date as well
 
With bubble algae this rampant, it's likely your nitrates and phosphates will show acceptable, or near zero, results. This doesn't strike me as a nutrient issue and moreso an imbalance issue.

Bubble algae is a pain to deal with. I've shut down a tank in the past due to it overrunning my entire tank, including corals. I regret not tackling it with chemicals or something other than "in a tank that small, just do water changes". With that being said, that has to be one of the best looking torches I've ever seen. Your elegance looks pretty great too (not sure if the tentacles are longer normally). I would not recommend feeding coral foods, or anything other than what your fish need for now.

How did this tank start? Dry or live rock? Ocean direct sand? Or Dry/live sand? I'm quickly becoming a fan of Aqua Forest Lifesource (fiji mud/miracle mud). In my limited experience with it, it seems to have all the benefits of live rock, but ends up "coating" the rock and tank with bacteria and basalt that is super porous. I think at the stage your tank is at, it certainly can't hurt to try it out. Much more effective than seeding the tank with some live rubble and waiting for the good stuff to spread. Knowing what I know now, I'd go in with manual removal of the bubble algae heavy with a water change and dose the AF Lifesource after lights out that same day (turn off the skimmer if you have one) for a few hours after dosing).

If the life source does not improve the situation after a month or two, or if coral health is on the decline due to bubble algae growing on skeletons and choking them out, I'd go to the "hammer" solutions with a quarter dose of an algaecide product like algaefix (anything but Vibrant). I know this is unpopular, but if you're tossing the idea of rebooting the aquarium around it is certainly worth a try if the natural solutions aren't working. At the end of the day the tank should stay looking good and chemical treatments can be effective when used in moderation.

That bubble algae, and other nasty stuff, is feeding on the leftovers of your tank's food inputs. When you feed pay attention to where things settle. When you do your next water change and manually remove the bubble algae target those areas in the sand/rock. If you have room in your WC bucket left over, work on turning over your sand with the siphon hose. If you aren't blowing off your rockwork, pick a section and turkey baste the tar out of it and let your mechanical filtration grab it. You should swap out your mechanical filtration after water clears up.

I can't say this enough, those coral look incredible. You're obviously doing the majority of things right here. It's just the ugly bits that shadow those accomplishments. If you can get to the other side of this, the tank will be able to fend for itself for quite some time given routine maintenance. Wishing you all the best!
 
With bubble algae this rampant, it's likely your nitrates and phosphates will show acceptable, or near zero, results. This doesn't strike me as a nutrient issue and moreso an imbalance issue.

Bubble algae is a pain to deal with. I've shut down a tank in the past due to it overrunning my entire tank, including corals. I regret not tackling it with chemicals or something other than "in a tank that small, just do water changes". With that being said, that has to be one of the best looking torches I've ever seen. Your elegance looks pretty great too (not sure if the tentacles are longer normally). I would not recommend feeding coral foods, or anything other than what your fish need for now.

How did this tank start? Dry or live rock? Ocean direct sand? Or Dry/live sand? I'm quickly becoming a fan of Aqua Forest Lifesource (fiji mud/miracle mud). In my limited experience with it, it seems to have all the benefits of live rock, but ends up "coating" the rock and tank with bacteria and basalt that is super porous. I think at the stage your tank is at, it certainly can't hurt to try it out. Much more effective than seeding the tank with some live rubble and waiting for the good stuff to spread. Knowing what I know now, I'd go in with manual removal of the bubble algae heavy with a water change and dose the AF Lifesource after lights out that same day (turn off the skimmer if you have one) for a few hours after dosing).

If the life source does not improve the situation after a month or two, or if coral health is on the decline due to bubble algae growing on skeletons and choking them out, I'd go to the "hammer" solutions with a quarter dose of an algaecide product like algaefix (anything but Vibrant). I know this is unpopular, but if you're tossing the idea of rebooting the aquarium around it is certainly worth a try if the natural solutions aren't working. At the end of the day the tank should stay looking good and chemical treatments can be effective when used in moderation.

That bubble algae, and other nasty stuff, is feeding on the leftovers of your tank's food inputs. When you feed pay attention to where things settle. When you do your next water change and manually remove the bubble algae target those areas in the sand/rock. If you have room in your WC bucket left over, work on turning over your sand with the siphon hose. If you aren't blowing off your rockwork, pick a section and turkey baste the tar out of it and let your mechanical filtration grab it. You should swap out your mechanical filtration after water clears up.

I can't say this enough, those coral look incredible. You're obviously doing the majority of things right here. It's just the ugly bits that shadow those accomplishments. If you can get to the other side of this, the tank will be able to fend for itself for quite some time given routine maintenance. Wishing you all the best!
Thank you so much, I will go ahead and try these for sure. Is moving a little bit of rock around worth the risk of stirring stuff up and possibly spiking ammonia? I say this because I would like to move that rock off the glass to make it easily accessible for cleaning
 
I do have reef roids! So scrub all algae and then put some in? target feed or sorta just dose into water and how long should I do it?
Target feed, it’s all going in the water anyway. Just remember small doses consistently for a couple of days, retest after another few days adjust from there. Feed your fish pellets if you have them
 
Keep an eye on nutrients
Shoot for no3 under 20 ppm
Po4 under .1 but it all varies tank you tank it’s just a start point
 
Thank you so much, I will go ahead and try these for sure. Is moving a little bit of rock around worth the risk of stirring stuff up and possibly spiking ammonia? I say this because I would like to move that rock off the glass to make it easily accessible for cleaning
If you do it before a water change I think that’s fine. Will likely upset the corals for a bit but if you’re careful about it it should be fine. Run some carbon in a bag and change your mechanical filtration out when the water clears.
 
That is a small, simple tank that could be re-set in an afternoon. Then use the wisdom you have gained in the past 2 years going forward. (That’s my 2-cents.) Best wishes!
 
Did you got to test for phosphates also? Not sure if I missed it
 

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