Third time better be the charm

Stang67 · Jul 3, 2024

Dead at work so researching. Was planning on using a 40g for the FOWLR tank. Now thinking I can just load the 100g rubbermaid trough up with rock and call it a day. Heater, return and that extra volume and rock should be sufficient for filtration.

exnisstech · Jul 3, 2024

Stang67 said:
Dead at work so researching. Was planning on using a 40g for the FOWLR tank. Now thinking I can just load the 100g rubbermaid trough up with rock and call it a day. Heater, return and that extra volume and rock should be sufficient for filtration.

Why not. I upgraded mine with a second level to work on getting my new CBB eating. Very ugly and noisy but hey it's in the basement lol

fishguy242 · Jul 3, 2024

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Stang67 · Jul 3, 2024

exnisstech said:
Why not. I upgraded mine with a second level to work on getting my new CBB eating. Very ugly and noisy but hey it's in the basement lol

I've been watching you

F i s h y · Jul 3, 2024

Stang67 said:
I've been watching you

Creeper

Stang67 · Jul 3, 2024

F i s h y said:
Creeper

MrsBugmaster · Jul 3, 2024

Stang67 said:
Dead at work so researching. Was planning on using a 40g for the FOWLR tank. Now thinking I can just load the 100g rubbermaid trough up with rock and call it a day. Heater, return and that extra volume and rock should be sufficient for filtration.

That’s a very good idea!

Stang67 · Jul 3, 2024

MrsBugmaster said:
That’s a very good idea!

Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and then.

F i s h y · Jul 3, 2024

Stang67 said:
Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and then.

Sun shines on a dogs.. yep heard that one too

Aqua62 · Jul 3, 2024

Stang67 said:
Omg this just may work. Which shop??? salty critters? Just need the tank but this is a hard deal to pass up. Wonder if they would drill it?

Ok, so I made it over to RMS to check out this special on the Seapora 135 gallon tank.

It is a standard tank with dimensions of 72Lx18Wx24H, no drilled holes, but has both bottom and top bracing. You can see in the picture there is also added bracing by use of glass along the middle brace and both ends. It comes with a standard looking stand, LED lights and glass top. I did not check the stand out much as I would not have used either. I just don’t trust these stands with this much water weight alone. All the corner and bottom seals holding the tank together looked good.

Now if you are looking for just a tank only that is drilled, they also have a Seapora 135 gallon tank that is predrilled in the bottom corners and have corner overflows for basically the same cost of the previous tank ensemble mentioned.

Now my two cents for what it is worth.
The first tank mentioned would make a great fresh water display tank. Slap on a HOB filtration unit, a couple internal low volume pumps and you are pretty much all done. To use this for Saltwater, I don’t know. Taking a chance with drilling a couple holes in the glass on the back panel after spending this much money, would give more than just the heeby geebys. Now if you were to use a HOB overflow I could then see a lot of possibilities start to arise. I mention HOB overflow because this is what I successfully used for the first 25 years of the 35 years I have been keeping saltwater tanks, all until the craze of drilling holes in glass came around a few years ago.

Hopefully this gives you something to compare to, with the tank sale going on at Bluefish.

Stang67 · Jul 4, 2024

Aqua62 said:
Ok, so I made it over to RMS to check out this special on the Seapora 135 gallon tank.

It is a standard tank with dimensions of 72Lx18Wx24H, no drilled holes, but has both bottom and top bracing. You can see in the picture there is also added bracing by use of glass along the middle brace and both ends. It comes with a standard looking stand, LED lights and glass top. I did not check the stand out much as I would not have used either. I just don’t trust these stands with this much water weight alone. All the corner and bottom seals holding the tank together looked good.

Now if you are looking for just a tank only that is drilled, they also have a Seapora 135 gallon tank that is predrilled in the bottom corners and have corner overflows for basically the same cost of the previous tank ensemble mentioned.

Now my two cents for what it is worth.
The first tank mentioned would make a great fresh water display tank. Slap on a HOB filtration unit, a couple internal low volume pumps and you are pretty much all done. To use this for Saltwater, I don’t know. Taking a chance with drilling a couple holes in the glass on the back panel after spending this much money, would give more than just the heeby geebys. Now if you were to use a HOB overflow I could then see a lot of possibilities start to arise. I mention HOB overflow because this is what I successfully used for the first 25 years of the 35 years I have been keeping saltwater tanks, all until the craze of drilling holes in glass came around a few years ago.

Hopefully this gives you something to compare to, with the tank sale going on at Bluefish.

You are so great!!! Thank you for checking this out and taking pix and providing all the info.
I also started the first tank with a HOB. It was the 29g off the shelf kit. It did great also. I would love to do a HOB for this too as it would save me from drilling more holes in the floor and doing all the fun support system in the basement. The only drawback is I was going to do a FOWLR in this one. From what I have been able to green from the interweb those tend to be more "dirty" then reef systems since there are no coral to uptake any of the nutrients produced by the fish. I could get a HOB skimmer as well to address this. It's a decision to really think on. I have priced out all the major brands but the majority of them are all kits and don't just sell the tanks. I would like to get another tslot aluminium frame for this one that would match the 180g stand. So that's gonna run 800-1200 on its own, for a standard size. If I go custom then it would be more. I could save that $ by just using the stand we built that is on the fw system now, would just need to add leveling feet. It's set up for a 120g, 48x24x24. I know what I really want, I just need to see how to fit it in the budget, and in the house

I will run out to bluefish probably tomorrow after work or Saturday. Then I should have all the data I need and put together a spreadsheet. I can't make a decision without a spreadsheet.
Thank you again for checking this out. Its in the running for sure.

Nano_Man · Jul 4, 2024

Stang67 said:
Still haven't gotten to tear out the ceiling. Yet. It's supposed to storm tomorrow so will do it then since I'll be stuck inside.
The bees amaze me. All these frames were in the same box. They show just how different honey looks in the frames. That's why mine is a "blend" normally as well.

Nice full frames full of honey
And I am so jealous lol

Goaway · Jul 4, 2024

Stang67 said:
You are so great!!! Thank you for checking this out and taking pix and providing all the info.
I also started the first tank with a HOB. It was the 29g off the shelf kit. It did great also. I would love to do a HOB for this too as it would save me from drilling more holes in the floor and doing all the fun support system in the basement. The only drawback is I was going to do a FOWLR in this one. From what I have been able to green from the interweb those tend to be more "dirty" then reef systems since there are no coral to uptake any of the nutrients produced by the fish. I could get a HOB skimmer as well to address this. It's a decision to really think on. I have priced out all the major brands but the majority of them are all kits and don't just sell the tanks. I would like to get another tslot aluminium frame for this one that would match the 180g stand. So that's gonna run 800-1200 on its own, for a standard size. If I go custom then it would be more. I could save that $ by just using the stand we built that is on the fw system now, would just need to add leveling feet. It's set up for a 120g, 48x24x24. I know what I really want, I just need to see how to fit it in the budget, and in the house I will run out to bluefish probably tomorrow after work or Saturday. Then I should have all the data I need and put together a spreadsheet. I can't make a decision without a spreadsheet.
Thank you again for checking this out. Its in the running for sure.

Another option, more work. Connect that tank to the reef. Again... more work
But, if you can. You're only managing 1 system still

fishguy242 · Jul 4, 2024

Extend the 4' stand to 6' an option ?

Stang67 · Jul 4, 2024

Goaway said:
Another option, more work. Connect that tank to the reef. Again... more work
But, if you can. You're only managing 1 system still

It is in the realm of possibilities and I have thought about it. Plus: more volume and I can tie them both into the 100g rubbermaid. Less maintenence and gear.
Minus: will be dosing moonshine to a tank that doesn't have (much) corals $$$. Chance of new fish getting existing tank "sick". Would still need to get more/bigger gear to support additional volume.
But, I am still considering it.