https://reefbuilders.com/2016/02/22...rritus-p-paineorum-p-alfiani-flasher-wrasses/
The middle one is P. alfiani. OMG!!!
The middle one is P. alfiani. OMG!!!
Three new flasher wrasses. Wow!!!
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Me too. Here's another site that talks of the same article that includes a link to the article “Review of the Indo-Pacific Flasher Wrasses of the genus Paracheilinus”. Some of the best pics of all flashers I've ever seen.
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Beautiful fish! None of my flashers ever flashed :/
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I have a suspicion that one of the species, paineorum, is a hybrid. I also wouldn't be surprised to see a few new species described in the next couple of years. Too bad that so many of these flashers are in areas where there is no fish collection going on.
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Alfiani might well be a rennyae hybrid too.
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Couldn't resist this one from DD. This is the second Paracheilinus xanthocirritus DD has had in the last few weeks. They're calling it a Yellow Filamented Flasher.
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Ahh so your the gentleman who beat me to it lol. Congrats on the fish. I picked up a yellow flasher last night from DD. I didn't feel like waiting around for another filamented as that was the first one I saw.Couldn't resist this one from DD. This is the second Paracheilinus xanthocirritus DD has had in the last few weeks. They're calling it a Yellow Filamented Flasher.
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Yep, I got it. DD did have another one a couple weeks ago but it looked a little beat up. I resisted that one. Still amazes me how DD came up with a newly described species. Must have been mixed in with a bunch of known flashers and the timing of the article let LA identify them.
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Hybrids of flavianalis x filamentosus are rather common.
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Are you saying that DD were mistaken in naming it Paracheilinus xanthocirritus? Or that the scientists who authored that paper were mistaken in calling it a new species?
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Rather that.
Classification is messy when sequences offer little (if any) differences.
Not to say that they are "wrong" necessarily, but I have my suspicions if some are actually unique species.
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Agreed, they have been a little overzealous with what is being described as a new species, especially since they come mixed in with filamentosus and flavianalis, just not in as great of numbers and showing shared traits of both species.
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They do have a pretty good discussion of hybrids and mitochondrial DNA in the article and still conclude they are new species so I don't think they are blindly proclaiming three new species. And the authors are respected experts in their field. I suppose time will tell. In any case this is a beautiful fish.
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Understood, and I have the utmost respect for those gentleman.
The issue I cannot get past is how come we never see those species without the presence of the others?
The issue I cannot get past is how come we never see those species without the presence of the others?
eatbreakfast
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Very respected in their field, but this is akin to what they did with Cirrhilabrus condei/marinda, which on further examination of specimens from each 'species' doesn't really stand up to scrutiny.They do have a pretty good discussion of hybrids and mitochondrial DNA in the article and still conclude they are new species so I don't think they are blindly proclaiming three new species. And the authors are respected experts in their field. I suppose time will tell. In any case this is a beautiful fish.
