Tin 155.4 in ATI test!

[Sjaako]

My Tin lever is 155.4 in my ATI test.
Ik could not beleave it.
Its the only metal reading which is high.

Is it safe to say its not from my pumps etc because iron etc should be off the chart to?

 

[chema]

I wouldn't trust 100% that ATI measurement. When I compare tin readings by ATI and other ICP companies (Triton, Fauna Marin) ATI is always higher than the others.

 

[Sjaako]

Higher as in copple of percentages but my 154 reading will never be that of to go go the safe zone?

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

That value is very high. No one can say if it is too high since we do not know the chemical form.

Do inverts seem ok?

 

[Sjaako]

Well all lps, zoa's and mushrooms are fine.
My acro's where having STN and lost most of them last haf year. They never really showed growth.

 

[Reefahholic]

I’ve heard of people having high Tin levels with new PVC pipe in a new system. How old is your tank?

 

[Dr. Jim]

I'd think about plastic tubing, acrylic and other plastics (pvc). How old is your tank and how many gallons? Brand of tank? (Any green plastic tubing?)

 

[spsick]

From what it’s worth, I’ve been in your shoes. Lost a ton of acros. Only resolution was frequent large water changes to dilute. I tossed some questionable magnets but mostly chalked it up to new PVC- UV sterilizer being a huge cannon of it. My practice now with any new build or changes will be run all equipment in heated water for a few weeks before adding to system.

 

[Sjaako]

My system is 15 months old, this is my first ATI test.
To be honest, in the begining my stony corals had good growth. But afther a couplet of months this stopped to zero growth and omother couple of months to STN. The LPS are doing fine.
I used new pvc piping, no green tubing.
Aquarium is second hand.

 

[spsick]

My system is 15 months old, this is my first ATI test.
To be honest, in the begining my stony corals had good growth. But afther a couplet of months this stopped to zero growth and omother couple of months to STN. The LPS are doing fine.
I used new pvc piping, no green tubing.
Aquarium is second hand.

How are you mixing your new water for water changes? In a water change station you’ve made?

Next steps if you’re serious about identifying and eliminating the tin:
1- Mix up new saltwater and send a sample in to ATI along with RODI water to see if there’s any tin in them.

2- As many large water changes in the tank as you can bear while keeping parameters stable.

3- After a month of big WC send in another tank sample and see if it dropped. If it has come down to near nothing, get back to normal WC schedule and send in another sample in a month.

If you aren’t trusting ATI results toss a Triton in there, but my experience was they both returned Tin in the results. Levels were slightly different, but any is unacceptable.

Good luck!

 

[Sjaako]

How are you mixing your new water for water changes? In a water change station you’ve made?

Next steps if you’re serious about identifying and eliminating the tin:
1- Mix up new saltwater and send a sample in to ATI along with RODI water to see if there’s any tin in them.

2- As many large water changes in the tank as you can bear while keeping parameters stable.

3- After a month of big WC send in another tank sample and see if it dropped. If it has come down to near nothing, get back to normal WC schedule and send in another sample in a month.

If you aren’t trusting ATI results toss a Triton in there, but my experience was they both returned Tin in the results. Levels were slightly different, but any is unacceptable.

Good luck!

Thanks for the tip.
My RO water was tested aswell and contained no Tin.
Ik keep my RO water in 25L plastic containers.
The RO sample send in was directly from the RO device instead from the containers stock.

 

[spsick]

Thanks for the tip.
My RO water was tested aswell and contained no Tin.
Ik keep my RO water in 25L plastic containers.
The RO sample send in was directly from the RO device instead from the containers stock.

Perfect, you eliminated the possibility of it being from source water. So with the next sample send it from the containers it’s been sitting in for whatever your normal amount of time is.

No fun! I lost a lot of big old colonies to this and it drove me nuts. Here’s my Pink Lemonade

 

[Sjaako]

My RO water test gived a high value on silicon, is this silicate?

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

My RO water test gived a high value on silicon, is this silicate?

Likely yes. It is one of the harder ions to hold in a DI. But unless you have a diatom problem, it is no concern. I dosed it.

 

[Sjaako]

Likely yes. It is one of the harder ions to hold in a DI. But unless you have a diatom problem, it is no concern. I dosed it.

Why would u dose silicates? i do not have a diatom problem but i do have red cyano and a small general algue problem.
My P04 is 0.17 and my N03 is 20 but i had the algue already while P04 and N03 where 0

 

[kev.2013]

Why would u dose silicates? i do not have a diatom problem but i do have red cyano and a small general algue problem.
My P04 is 0.17 and my N03 is 20 but i had the algue already while P04 and N03 where 0

Dose silicates for some sponges

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

Why would u dose silicates? i do not have a diatom problem but i do have red cyano and a small general algue problem.
My P04 is 0.17 and my N03 is 20 but i had the algue already while P04 and N03 where 0

To help organisms that use it, such as sponges.

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

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Silica In Reef Aquariums

Why would I recommend dosing silica? Largely because creatures in our tanks use it, the concentrations in our tanks (at least in mine) are below natural levels, and the sponges, mollusks, and diatoms may not be getting enough to thrive.

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