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That is the question.

So, after reading as much as I can, and becoming utterly over saturated on it, I decided the next best choice of action was to go to the community. Here is the backstory: I took part in a WWC live auction and managed to snag some very nice corals to help populate an upgraded aquarium. The PC rainbow acro was probably the prize from that batch. I acclimated them to the tank under my Radion G3 over the course of 3 or 4 weeks and then placed them on the rocks.

The good news: After 4 months they are all alive and healthy with polyp extension almost constantly. I have also noticed encrustation of the plug (at varying rates) of all the frags I got.

The bad news: Many of the corals lost their brilliant colors and are muted or pale version of what I received from WWC. At first, I attributed this to acclimation and new environment, but now that they are growing in the tank I suspect otherwise. The PC rainbow has recovered its greens and a hint of purple but the reds seem to be gone. Two other red corals are very muted as well.

Using the APEX light meter, I had set the top shelf of coral to between 300-320 PAR since I had read thats what WWC runs their tanks at. Everyone can easily agree that too little light on acros and the zooxanthellae get boosted to provide enough energy for the coral and they go brown. Go in the opposite direction and the zooxanthellae get booted and we get bleaching. Its the in-between that has me lost, because this is where the chromophores of the coral come in. Everything i've come across indicates that these act almost like sunscreen in helping protect and regulate the coral and zooxanthellae from too much light (up to a point of course).

Where I get conflicted with my tank is this. Pale corals in a new tank seem to indicate to me I need more light. But when I shifted a chalice coral out to the corner of the tank and left it there for the last 3 months it regained much of its original color. This suggests everything needs less light. But then why would pale corals need less light? All the scientific papers i've come across point to more light more chromophores since its a response to light intensity.

Whatever I choose it has to be gradual. But after 4 months and little to no change with either coloring up more or less I thought it time to come up with a plan. Looking forward to hearing everyone's suggestions!
 
I watched a video on youtube from some bigger channel, wish i could recall which. But they show their lights and such, maybe see how they were before? I don't think your radions are too far off from what they were under before though. Also you can try supplements for coloring, red sea has a nice color 4 part that is pretty inexpensive.

https://www.bulkreefsupply.com/red-sea-coral-colors-abcd-4-pack.html
 
Pale colors are also an indicator that they may be nutrient starved.
What are your current levels of Nitrate and Phosphate?
 
So more info. I've been running triton elements for about a year now (really like it), and weaned myself off water changes. Last water change was done in October of last year. I JUST got a triton water report back. Per their suggestions I need to boost my Potassium, Strontium, and Iodine levels (all of which can affect coral color), but not by huge amounts. My Lithium is off the charts high, but the consensus on that seems to be American salt companies and no harm. Nitrate with a red sea test kit has always read 0-2ppm for me, and triton test puts phosphates and phosphorus ever so slightly below their setpoints (-.002mg/l and -.91ug/l respectively), but not enough that action is suggested.

I feed my aquarium 2 times a day every day. A mix of frozen foods (not strained/washed) in the morning and a dry food/pellet mixture in the evenings. Additionally they get an ounce of live phyto every other day. Corals get spot fed once a week. So I don't feel like their is a shortage nutrients going into the system.
 
I ran a small SPS only nano tank and for the 1st 3~4 months, everything looked great with color and PE. Then everything started to pale out. My N03 was consistently at zero with a Salifert test kit and my P04 was .001~.002 with a full size Hanna colorimeter.
I needed to lower the intensity of the whites and also started to dose potassium nitrate. Recovery times are slow but it seems that with no fish and no feeding, my corals need the N03 at about 5~10ppm and P04 at .003~.006 to be happy.
 
I agree with the less whites. Corals in nature aren't usually saturated with white light. Ask any diver what color it is down there.
 
If you are not driving N and P artificially low with GFO, organic carbon, etc., then you have enough. .1N and .005-.01P is enough to have a thriving and happy SPS system, yet 5 or 10x less is trouble... but nearly impossible to get there without dosing or introducing media.

While the vast majority of SPS are collected with snorkels and masks at depths less than 3-5 meters and do get massive amounts of sunlight in the 5500 to 6500K range, this is not good to provide with white LEDs since they have output peaks in the range that can be quite harmful and the coral have to use energy to fight these off. Less white LED is better... and most people like this look anyway, so it is a win:win. If you love the whiter look, then look at adding T5 or MH to get this since these sources do not harm coral.

If they are growing and encrusting, then I would not sweat this. If your tank is less than a year old and/or you do not have massive amounts of coralline popping up everywhere, then I would not sweat this.. Many times, people chase color, PE and growth when all that they have to do it wait. New tanks are slower to have thriving SPS, but it will come. Massive amounts of coralline is a good indicator that the conditions for calcification is optimal in your tank.

BTW - PC rainbow is not a good indicator of anything... there are all kinds of awesome acropora keepers who struggle to get good color with it without photoshop... but then some have great color and have no reason why that is repeatable by others.
 
This is an informative conversation so i'm going to continue filling in holes. I have no nutrient absorbers other than macro algae in the sump. I think that should create a fairly nice natural balance of nutrients for the coral. As for the white LEDS, I run the coral labs AB+ schedule where the UV, Royal Blues, and Blues dominate the spectrum.

Sounds like in the end I just need to wait it out some more to see what goes on. It still doesn't make sense to me why the corals are pale. If its not enough light or not enough nutrients then it makes sense that they would loose colors, but at a light strength where its not enough to bleach why wouldn't the coral become more colored in response?
 

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