Toadstool leather damaged?

[sikemd]

I got a toadstool yesterday from a fellow reefer that I think the base has been damaged in transit. The base is all shriveled up and it looks like there might be a torn section. It had a real long stretched out stalk when it was in his tank and it remained long on the drive, not sure if another piece of live rock bumped into it or if it just tore.

Not sure if I should cut it and re-glue or just leave it be? Maybe put it in lowest flow area?

Any suggestions, info, advice appreciated!

Thanks

 

[Crabs McJones]

#reefsquad any advice on this toadstool? Not sure if you're able to cut the bottom portion off and reglue it.

 

[GoVols]

You can cut out the bad section and rubber-band (down) the good to the live rock.
Over time the toadstool will attach to the live rock and you can remove the rubber-band.

 

[dbl]

You can cut the bottom off but don't bother glueing it. You'll have to take a small rubber band and use it to hold it to a small piece of rock. It will eventually attach itself to the rock and you can get rid ofmthe rubber band.

 

[Crabs McJones]

You can cut out the bad section and rubber-band (down) the good to the live rock.
Over time the toadstool will attach to the live rock and you can remove the rubber-band.

You can cut the bottom off but don't bother glueing it. You'll have to take a small rubber band and use it to hold it to a small piece of rock. It will eventually attach itself to the rock and you can get rid ofmthe rubber band.

thanks guys!

 

[DSC reef]

How old is the tank it's in? It looks unhappy and I don't think it's the stalk. You can cut and rubberband like stated above but I would keep it in decent flow.

 

[dbl]

thanks guys!

Apparently I need to learn to type faster!

 

[Flippers4pups]

You guys beat me to it! Don't glue it, rubber band it as @GoVols and @dbl have stated.

Cut away and discard the damaged tissue from the rock.

 

[Crabs McJones]

Lol on an unrelated note, I took keyboarding for 4 years in school (easy A course) and I believe to this day 10 years later I still hold the record for most words per minute

Apparently I need to learn to type faster!

 

[Flippers4pups]

Lol on an unrelated note, I took keyboarding for 4 years in school (easy A course) and I believe to this day 10 years later I still hold the record for most words per minute

I need to use the "speak to type" function more often on my phone! Lol

 

[Fin]

I wonder if maybe the other reefer you got it from ripped it off of an adjoining rock? If so, it might recover on its own. I would keep an eye on it and it it starts to look like it is rotting, then cut the stalk, just above the bad part. I would cut it with a brand new single edge razor blade.

Don't use glue on softies. If you use a rubber band, don't put it on too tightly. It will cut through the base. You can also wedge it between two pieces of rock and glue the rock together, but not the coral. I actually pierce leathers with a large sewing needle and some fine monofiliment fishing line. Then I tie it on a piece of rock. I have been doing that for probably 15 years. It is easier than it sounds and holds the frag in place until it attaches to the rock. It will just grow around the line and you can remove it later - if you can find it.

 

[dbl]

Along the same lines at @Fin is saying, I used to use toothpicks through the base and hook the rubber bands to the toothpicks to hold it in place. In a week or two, cut the rubber bands and pull the toothpick out. The rubber bands never actually touches the leather.

 

[GoVols]

Dang:
I forgot about the toothpicks... ;Oldman

 

[Fin]

I need to use the "speak to type" function more often on my phone! Lol

Just be sure to read it before you hit post.

 

[sikemd]

Thank you everyone for the replies.

I wonder if maybe the other reefer you got it from ripped it off of an adjoining rock? If so, it might recover on its own. I would keep an eye on it and it it starts to look like it is rotting, then cut the stalk, just above the bad part. I would cut it with a brand new single edge razor blade.

Don't use glue on softies. If you use a rubber band, don't put it on too tightly. It will cut through the base. You can also wedge it between two pieces of rock and glue the rock together, but not the coral. I actually pierce leathers with a large sewing needle and some fine monofiliment fishing line. Then I tie it on a piece of rock. I have been doing that for probably 15 years. It is easier than it sounds and holds the frag in place until it attaches to the rock. It will just grow around the line and you can remove it later - if you can find it.

It actually looked like part of the stalk half way up was attached to the side of the tank when I first got there (the base attached to rock). He pointed that out and said it might be a bit of a pain getting it off the acrylic when I first got there but when he got it out he said it came off easily. So I dunno... It was a 40 min drive with a tub full of live rock and corals so not sure exactly when it happened.

Should I just leave it alone for a day or 2 and see how it looks or just go ahead and cut out that damaged section now? It's flopped over laying on the bottom now, the head is pretty big and heavy, some of the polyps are sticking out a tiny bit so I don't think it's hurtin' too bad. Any certain conditions I should leave it in for the time being? I got it at the bottom in semi-shade in the lowest flow area of the tank now. Might you be able to show me a picture of what rotting would look like?

I have a finger leather that I acquired awhile back that was not attached to anything and I just gently stuffed the base in a crevice in a piece of live rock and that attached pretty quickly (within a few days), I imagine this guy would work the same way but I'll probably take your advice and go with the pin through and tie.

Thanks for the info, much appreciated.

 

[Fin]

Thank you everyone for the replies.



It actually looked like part of the stalk half way up was attached to the side of the tank when I first got there (the base attached to rock). He pointed that out and said it might be a bit of a pain getting it off the acrylic when I first got there but when he got it out he said it came off easily. So I dunno... It was a 40 min drive with a tub full of live rock and corals so not sure exactly when it happened.

Should I just leave it alone for a day or 2 and see how it looks or just go ahead and cut out that damaged section now? It's flopped over laying on the bottom now, the head is pretty big and heavy, some of the polyps are sticking out a tiny bit so I don't think it's hurtin' too bad. Any certain conditions I should leave it in for the time being? I got it at the bottom in semi-shade in the lowest flow area of the tank now. Might you be able to show me a picture of what rotting would look like?

I have a finger leather that I acquired awhile back that was not attached to anything and I just gently stuffed the base in a crevice in a piece of live rock and that attached pretty quickly (within a few days), I imagine this guy would work the same way but I'll probably take your advice and go with the pin through and tie.

Thanks for the info, much appreciated.

I think I would just keep an eye on it for a little while. It has a wound and it might heal ok by itself. Right now, it isn't happy. If that area starts to look like it is "dissolving" and looks like it is coming apart, then I would cut it and remount it however you like. You don't have to use the needle deal, that is just the way I like to do it.

 

[Philt56]

I have a leather on a piece of rock that is covered with green star polyps that I don’t want in my new tank. So I was thinking just to slice it off at the base like you all suggest. Any special trick in cutting it or just make sure I use a sharp scalpel or something similar? Anything to else to ensure healing at the cut?

Could the leftover on the rock grow back? Or does it need a part of the head with its polyps to survive?

 

[Flippers4pups]

I've never done anything to the ends after fragging one, as long as the tissue at the base is healthy.

Any fragments of tissue left behind can potentially grow a new Toadstool leather.

 

[dbl]

I have a leather on a piece of rock that is covered with green star polyps that I don’t want in my new tank. So I was thinking just to slice it off at the base like you all suggest. Any special trick in cutting it or just make sure I use a sharp scalpel or something similar? Anything to else to ensure healing at the cut?

Could the leftover on the rock grow back? Or does it need a part of the head with its polyps to survive?

As you said, just use a new, sharp scalpel and try to make one clean cut. Then take the piece and affix it to a rock as described above. As to the left over piece, it will likely grow back if left in the tank and given enough time.

 

[Sea MunnKey]

I would leave it the way it is right now as it's not broken ... it'll eventually heal itself as long as there's in-direct flow to ensure no detritus gets trapped in the damaged base. I've got a huge Toadstool that had a large tear around the top end of the thick stem/branch. I didn't glue nor did anything and it healed by itself.