Too much flow for my Walt Disney frag?

[Piker]

I'm noticing some skin missing on the tips of my Walt Disney frag (have had for 2 weeks). It was carried off and left to rest on its side yesterday due to a tuxedo urchin repositioning him.

But occasionally after feeding I see filaments whipping around dramatically, as in enough to kill a torch. I've recorded a short clip.

Any feedback regarding flow? I'm tempted to turn things down or move him but don't want to make an impulse decision.

Short video here if I linked this correctly:


Thanks in advance for any feedback!!!

 

[Dburr1014]

I say the flow looks good.

 

[Piker]

Thank you for the feedback. Still slightly nervous due to missing tip tissue. Moved a power head slightly because I worry.

Will move back if polyps retract or I see other negative effects.

 

[Uncle99]

Looks bleached a bit.
Needs to colour up.

 

[Piker]

Looks bleached a bit.
Needs to colour up.

Trying! System is fairly stable.


Nitrate 6.8
Alk 7.8-8.2
Phos 0.04

Under radions and T5's. 3 hour peak of 290 par where the Disney is, upping that super slowly to 5 hours at 325 or so over the next 2 months to avoid algae etc.

Any advice to get it colored up? It's getting darker weekly.

 

[vtshadow]

Trying! System is fairly stable.


Nitrate 6.8
Alk 7.8-8.2
Phos 0.04

Under radions and T5's. 3 hour peak of 290 par where the Disney is, upping that super slowly to 5 hours at 325 or so over the next 2 months to avoid algae etc.

Any advice to get it colored up? It's getting darker weekly.

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[HudsonReefer2.0]

Trying! System is fairly stable.


Nitrate 6.8
Alk 7.8-8.2
Phos 0.04

Under radions and T5's. 3 hour peak of 290 par where the Disney is, upping that super slowly to 5 hours at 325 or so over the next 2 months to avoid algae etc.

Any advice to get it colored up? It's getting darker weekly.

Bump the nitrates 15-20

 

[Piker]

Bumping nitrates, jeez, I've been obsessed with the 5 to 10 ppm for so long and wondering why they fade.

Thanks, cross your fingers for me. Okay to dose from 7 to 15 in one go? Neo Nitro.

 

[HudsonReefer2.0]

Bumping nitrates, jeez, I've been obsessed with the 5 to 10 ppm for so long and wondering why they fade.

Thanks, cross your fingers for me. Okay to dose from 7 to 15 in one go? Neo Nitro.

I just feed my tank and let the fish do their business. Nvr had to dose nitrates. I have proudwolf sodium nitrate but Nvr used it. I’m like 20 to 25 at times. Not a pro but seem happy few frags

 

[Piker]

I feed 3x a day, pretty heavily. I suppose I'll slow down on changing socks 2x a week and turn the skimmer off a few days as well.

Thanks for all the feedback, I've tried everything else, this can't hurt!

 

[HudsonReefer2.0]

Change one thing and test see where u go. If u change to many things at once u don’t know what was effective and it won’t have a quick impact.

 

[Piker]

Thanks, I know the mantra and try my best, I'll implement slowly. Maybe just start by using the skimmer less and see how my nitrates move.

 

[Piker]

Follow up, so wasn't an overnight success obviously. Tips still looking raw 2 days later. Would dimming the lights for a few days help? Or would it be best to leave them. I have been adding light slowly over the past 3 months.

 

[Smite]

In my experience WD are kind of PAR monsters. They've handled very high PAR for me in the past. I'm not suggesting you increase PAR but that an extended light acclimation won't be all that crucial if your water quality and flow is all in line. I actually lean towards placing it where I know it has adaquet light and flow and leaving it. To me a continuous acclimation is somewhat of an instability, a constant change.

The flow in the video looks random and heavy, so pretty perfect in my opinion. You'll get nice thick and natural looking growth with that flow. The only time I think you can over flow an acropora is if it's direct AND constant. The damage could have been caused by the trip with the urchin. That will take a little while to heal and probably set it back a bit.

 

[Piker]

In my experience WD are kind of PAR monsters. They've handled very high PAR for me in the past. I'm not suggesting you increase PAR but that an extended light acclimation won't be all that crucial if your water quality and flow is all in line. I actually lean towards placing it where I know it has adaquet light and flow and leaving it. To me a continuous acclimation is somewhat of an instability, a constant change.

The flow in the video looks random and heavy, so pretty perfect in my opinion. You'll get nice thick and natural looking growth with that flow. The only time I think you can over flow an acropora is if it's direct AND constant. The damage could have been caused by the trip with the urchin. That will take a little while to heal and probably set it back a bit.

Really appreciate this, thanks.

 

[Uncle99]

Trying! System is fairly stable.


Nitrate 6.8
Alk 7.8-8.2
Phos 0.04

Under radions and T5's. 3 hour peak of 290 par where the Disney is, upping that super slowly to 5 hours at 325 or so over the next 2 months to avoid algae etc.

Any advice to get it colored up? It's getting darker weekly.

Looks good, they all like that for a bit. It sounds like it’s going in the right direction. Love the T5 light source for the Acro group, keep the chemistry butt on, give her some time. Numbers look good, thanks for sharing those.

 

[Piker]

Update: more lost tissue from the tips. It's uneven. Loosing hope, 6 month old tank, I knew I was risking it.

Going to continue with the higher nitrates. Tempted to turn the lights down but I've never seen STN stop.

 

[ScottB]

Update: more lost tissue from the tips. It's uneven. Loosing hope, 6 month old tank, I knew I was risking it.

Going to continue with the higher nitrates. Tempted to turn the lights down but I've never seen STN stop.

Sometimes you can pull it off at 6 months -- particularly with a live rock start -- but most times acropora just won't hang on. While the parameters we can measure may be "perfect", the biome is still a noisy place. All the different microscopic surface competitors are still battling it out.

 

[Smite]

Sorry to hear that.

I've had some luck covering TN with a bit of superglue, making sure to get it down onto the healthy flesh. Specially on smaller frags where cutting another frag wasn't really possible. I wear a latex glove and just coat it with my finger really quick.

Hopefully it turns around for you.

 

[Piker]

If I did superglue I'd be covering every one of the active axial corallites. I'm wondering if this would have a worse chance of success than leaving it alone? I'm seeing brighter coloration again now that nitrates have been bumped... too little too late maybe, but a good lesson to learn.