Torch dissapeared overnight?

[Kayanarka]

Last night I noticed one head of a two head torch was gone. This morning, the other head, completely gone, bare skeleton. How do they dissappear so fast? Could it have been too close to the sun coral pictured here? I know everyone wants parameters, for now I just want to know if I need to move this sun coral. Thanks.

Last night alk was 7.8, and I added some marine buffer to bring it up 1dkh.

I forgot to add the picture and now it will not let me

 

[Jekyl]

Last night I noticed one head of a two head torch was gone. This morning, the other head, completely gone, bare skeleton. How do they dissappear so fast? Could it have been too close to the sun coral pictured here? I know everyone wants parameters, for now I just want to know if I need to move this sun coral. Thanks.

Last night alk was 7.8, and I added some marine buffer to bring it up 1dkh.

Sounds like bail out. This is something that happens over time instead of over night. Usually caused by unfavorable conditions in one way or another.

 

[Lavey29]

Could be different things like your water parameters, pest or BJD etc...

 

[Kayanarka]

Sounds like bail out. This is something that happens over time instead of over night. Usually caused by unfavorable conditions in one way or another.

What is bail out? Like it left its skeleton? Does that mean it probably flew into a pump? What would make it do that all of a sudden?

Are pictures broken right now? I am driving myself nuts trying to upload the photo.

 

[Lost in the Sauce]

What is bail out? Like it left its skeleton? Does that mean it probably flew into a pump? What would make it do that all of a sudden?

Are pictures broken right now? I am driving myself nuts trying to upload the photo.

Pictures have been up and down, mostly down for many users for a few weeks.

 

[Lavey29]

What is bail out? Like it left its skeleton? Does that mean it probably flew into a pump? What would make it do that all of a sudden?

Are pictures broken right now? I am driving myself nuts trying to upload the photo.

Bailout is its dying desperation. The life polyps leave the skeleton completely into the water column. Maybe in the ocean one finds its way to a rock and starts over again as a new coral but in a tank this would be very rare.

 

[Kayanarka]

What is bail out? Like it left its skeleton? Does that mean it probably flew into a pump? What would make it do that all of a sudden?

Are pictures broken right now? I am driving myself nuts trying to upload the photo.

We found it! Hiding in the back on the bottom of the tank behind the rocks! Should we just leave it? It seems to be stuck, so I guess it is ok with flow. Not sure what kind of lighting it would get back there...

Now back to my original question, did it bail because of the sun coral? Do I need to move the sun coral? The sun coral is about 1 to 2 inches away from another torch I have in that area, I will keep trying to post the photo.

 

[Jekyl]

We found it! Hiding in the back on the bottom of the tank behind the rocks! Should we just leave it? It seems to be stuck, so I guess it is ok with flow. Not sure what kind of lighting it would get back there...

Now back to my original question, did it bail because of the sun coral? Do I need to move the sun coral? The sun coral is about 1 to 2 inches away from another torch I have in that area, I will keep trying to post the photo.

Without seeing pictures of the tank, list of parameters and lighting used there's no way to know. Usually it's torches that do the stinging. My guess is that environmental issues or disease were the cause.

 

[Kayanarka]

Note the two heads to the left of the sun coral. The sun coral being placed there was the only major tank change. The other two torches seem fine. My last round of testing can be found in my build thread. I will run a full battery of tests this weekend. Right now I am in the middle of a bathroom remodel and just do not have the time to babysit the tank. I did 30 gallon water change after I noticed he bailed. He seems to be happy in his new location, time will tell if he survives the long haul back there.

 

[Kayanarka]

Sounds like bail out. This is something that happens over time instead of over night. Usually caused by unfavorable conditions in one way or another.

My wife just found this on the side of a coral. Does this mean we have to pull and dip every coral? Is that a flatworm? Any advice or link to a good thread?

 

[Lost in the Sauce]

My wife just found this on the side of a coral. Does this mean we have to pull and dip every coral? Is that a flatworm? Any advice or link to a good thread?

Are you talking about the worm looking thing?

That looks like a hard tube shell normally associated with filter feeders like small feather dusters. I'll guarantee every one of my torches has at least five of those on the skeleton. That should not be the cause of a polyp bailout

 

[mdb_talon]

I would move the sun coral as it does look dangerously close. I would also move it to a shaded area and save the well lit areas for corals that need the light.

*Edit: but to clarify I do not think this would cause a polyp bailout.

 

[dvgyfresh]

My wife just found this on the side of a coral. Does this mean we have to pull and dip every coral? Is that a flatworm? Any advice or link to a good thread?

Is this the aforementioned coral? I still see polyps

 

[ying yang]

Keeping sun corals in the aquarium

www.practicalfishkeeping.co.uk

Little article about sun corals which I'm sure you did your research before buying like we all should be doing before buying any livestock for our tanks,as for your question on moving your remaining torch from your sun coral, I think possibly you should but for the reason that the torch can sting the less ageessive sun coral but mainly the fact torches get most their energy from the light and the zooanthelie algae inside them whi h they have a symbiotic relationship and sun corals are nps which is none photo synthetic so get all their energy from feeding alone and need feeding often ive read and they naturally at entrances to caves in the wild where its higher flow and food gets brought to them so in our tanks most put in shaded areas ,so therefore wouldn't of thought should be close to each other unless torch is in light outside a cave entrance and sun coral in shade inside the cave,but bear in mind need access to feed the sun coral every few days I read is best and alot of reefers place a cut pop bottle over the sun coral after feeding it so snails, crabs,shrimps cannot steal the food until it finished eating.

And like above poster says on side if that torch is some kind of tube worm/ feather dusters and always thought they harmless beneficial filter feeders and cause no harm unless plague proportions and clog up pipework and the such but a very experienced reefer said only 2 days in another thread there not a beneficial hitch hiker and advised someone to scrape it off a coral or put superglue on opening to glue it in,but another poster says maybe he was thinking of a vermitted snail so idk lol but I leave all mine in tank and since having my cbb fish ,I not seen any so guessing he just slurps them up lol

 

[Kayanarka]

Is this the aforementioned coral? I still see polyps

No, this is a different coral that my wife found that worm looking think on the side of.