Torch looking stressed?

Maybe I should get IO reef crystals, after my bucket of regular IO runs out?

After a little research, it seems regular IO is OK, but reef crystals are much much better for your coral.
I've never used the regular IO. However someone already spoke up that I was wrong about it.
 
I've never used the regular IO. However someone already spoke up that I was wrong about it.
As @jamesdomini4 said, regular IO salt is OK, but reef crystal IO salt is better.

I will probably switch to the reef crystals after my bucket of regular IO runs out.

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My plan is to call my LFS tomorrow and ask for a refund/replacement.

Should I ask for a refund? Or a different torch?
 
Don't worry about the salt, IO is just fine for growing corals. Buy a test kit that covers all the parameter bases. How long has your tank been up and running, judging by the one rock you have a serious algae manifestation going on. I'd get that under control before adding more coral. Also, don't try gluing a mushroom to a rock.
 
I don’t think reef crystal salt is any better than regular IO. First, reef crystal often mix at 12dkh and that could be problem. It is hard to keep 12dkh alkalinity by dosing (depending on how big your system is). Second, it could also result in big alkalinity swings while doing large water changes. Third, I always had problems acclimating corals to that high of an alkalinity. Most vendors keep their tanks at around 7-8 dkh.

There are a lot of threads here about people using various additives to bring alk down while mixing reef crystals. It is a pain. I ended up switching to Red Sea blue bucket. It mixes at 8dkh alkalinity.

I am not an expert in these matters, just sharing my experience. I definitely do not intend to restart the great salt debate. Haha.
 
As @jamesdomini4 said, regular IO salt is OK, but reef crystal IO salt is better.

I will probably switch to the reef crystals after my bucket of regular IO runs out.

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My plan is to call my LFS tomorrow and ask for a refund/replacement.

Should I ask for a refund? Or a different torch?
I would ask for a replacement, and if they don’t have any others, then a refund/store credit. The problem with getting a replacement is that it’s likely be just as fresh a cut. If they do have another make sure that it was cut at least an inch below the polyp/where the coral’s flesh stops and make sure that it isn’t cut through the polyp like this one was (it was probably several heads that were really close together and they cut between them, but they cut the side off this polyp - people do this all the time, and in an established aquarium that the colony is already acclimated to, it’d most likely be okay, I have a Duncan that was cut like this, and its just fine - though Duncans are more forgiving than torches).

As far as regular IO, I’ve found that it’s consistently low in calcium and magnesium and a little higher in alkalinity than I prefer. Your corals will live and grow in it, but they’d probably do better in a different salt. If you’re looking for a good, reasonably priced salt, I’d recommend Fritz’ RPM. Also, keeping your tank at 80° is completely fine, even 82° is fine, I keep mine around 79.5°.

Personally, if I were you, I’d hold off on buying any more corals until you’ve got alk, cal, nitrate, and phosphate test kits. Or at least any stony corals (including LPS). Your tank is still very new and isn’t stable (I set up my current tank in Jan, and I wouldn’t consider it stable yet), you need to understand and stabilize your alk, cal, and nutrients, which just isn’t possible in such a young tank (with the nutrients especially, it’s going to take time to mature and settle, especially using dry rock, my tank is going through an issue with nitrates right now, despite very little feeding, and doing water changes twice a week, they’re at like 60ppm, I blame running GFO and using 2/3 dry rock).

Its a shame about your torch, but if your lfs is any good, they’ll make it right. But this is a good lesson to thoroughly inspect corals/frags before purchasing.
 
Its a shame about your torch, but if your lfs is any good, they’ll make it right. But this is a good lesson to thoroughly inspect corals/frags before purchasing.
It is kind of my fault for not looking at closer, but I didn’t really know it was that bad. I was just excited that they had a torch.

I will call them when they open and ask for a replacement/refund.

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Do you have any suggestions for test kits for these levels?
alk, cal, nitrate, and phosphate
(By the way, my nitrates is <5ppm)
 
Don't worry about the salt, IO is just fine for growing corals. Buy a test kit that covers all the parameter bases. How long has your tank been up and running, judging by the one rock you have a serious algae manifestation going on. I'd get that under control before adding more coral. Also, don't try gluing a mushroom to a rock.
It’s been up and running for a little over a month, so I am still in the “ugly stage”.

I don’t know what to do about the algae... :/
 
I know these levels won’t be the same in my aquarium, but here are the levels for Kentucky:

Calcium:

Average: 112ppm
Closest to where I live: 190ppm

No clue on the alkalinity/phosphates without a test kit.
 
As long as it has signs of life it's got a chance.
Agree. I’ve had torches get really upset from being shipped or moved and not open for weeks. If you feel better getting a refund I’m sure the seller will work with you, but if not I would let it settle in for awhile before giving up.
 
Call and see, but stop moving the torch around your tank.
I’ll definitely stop moving it. No real improvement however, just super shrunken. It is still alive, which is a plus...

All of my other corals are doing awesome, so I know it’s not me?

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I just called, but the owner wasn’t there. A lady answered and told me she would have to call the owner and ask.

I’m hoping he will give me an exchange or a return...
 
Didn’t you say your other corals were palys and mushrooms? While I agree it is freshly fragged looking. Torches are a lot more finicky then your current corals and your tank doesn’t look ready for a torch. You need to figure out the algae issue as that is way beyond a normal ugly stage.

Also nothing wrong with IO. I actually prefer it over reef crystals as the parameters are closer to natural sea water.
 
Er yes, they are. Regardless of what my tank is ready for, the frag they sold me was freshly fragged and shouldn’t have been sold to me the way it was.
 
LFS just called back - no refund or replacement.

He suggested I try to move it around the tank until it opens up, but I don’t want to stress it more... maybe leave it here for a couple more days and see if it comes out?
 
I am not an expert on torches. I have one healing from shipping as of now.

As others have posted, leave it on a rock above the sand. Don't let sand touch the flesh. It could have used a frag plug, maybe.

I'd run water tests. It's a lot for one guy. Looks pretty though
 

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