Total Black-out for 5 days

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Will a Bubble Tip survive a total black-out for 5 days? Research tells me fish can handle it, and other coral may very well not recover, but I'm just curious if a bubble tip could handle 5 days of complete dark.


Thanks.
 
Will a Bubble Tip survive a total black-out for 5 days? Research tells me fish can handle it, and other coral may very well not recover, but I'm just curious if a bubble tip could handle 5 days of complete dark.


Thanks.
Maybe if it was super healthy before the blackout. Seems risky though. Why the need for the blackout? What’s going on?
 
Maybe if it was super healthy before the blackout. Seems risky though. Why the need for the blackout? What’s going on?

Dino.....

Gonna either give the bubble-tip (and everything else I guess) away and tear down, or start with a black-out and go from there.
 
Dino.....

Gonna either give the bubble-tip (and everything else I guess) away and tear down, or start with a black-out and go from there.
Oh I hear ya, how long has that been going on?
 
Oh I hear ya, how long has that been going on?

a week perhaps. I have googled enough to know I'm not either gonna take a stab at fixing it, and if it doesn't work, I will spare myself the headache and tear down and restart.
 
a week perhaps. I have googled enough to know I'm not either gonna take a stab at fixing it, and if it doesn't work, I will spare myself the headache and tear down and restart.
I had dinos for about a month. Just ended up adding an extra fish. The bioload was enough to keep nutrients measurable. No dinos since that. I wouldn’t tear down your tank.
 
I had dinos for about a month. Just ended up adding an extra fish. The bioload was enough to keep nutrients measurable. No dinos since that. I wouldn’t tear down your tank.

I only have 1 fish now. Not sure how much I want to add if I have to dump them all later back on my shop
 
When battling dinos I thought about a black out but all research suggested they don't really do anything. They just mask a problem short term.

The key to fighting dinos is get dirty.

2 months or so ago my tank was dino infested, then after letting it look like this for a few weeks...
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it now looks like this..
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Looks nice now, please elaborate on what you did to correct the problem.
 
I was thinking of restarting my tank to because of Dino’s definitely following
 
A blackout will not rid you of dino’s.

It is 99% of the time a nutrient issue.

Can you tell us where your NO3 and PO4 is at?

How long have they been at that level and what test kits are you using?
 
I only have 1 fish now. Not sure how much I want to add if I have to dump them all later back on my shop
Well that’s your problem lol
 
Looks nice now, please elaborate on what you did to correct the problem.

Looks like he did the “let other algae take over and starve the dinos” approach.

I dosed H2O2 and will scale back the lights. Will take another Nitrate/PO4 test when I am able. I think one is a Saelfert and one is an API but I don’t know. I usually test for everything at once and don’t keep track.

I also like to find the time for my local shop to double-check my results as I have a terrible time differentiating the colors.

I did a pretty good feed (half a shrimp) so my crabs and puffer likely won’t eat nearly all of it, so I should spike the nitrates a bit
 
Originally I was feeding lightly once a day and running chemipure Blue as well as doing a large wc once a week. I was still under the assumption nutrients were a big no no. I had no3 present but never had po4.

Then I started feeding benereef which also doses bacteria so no3 bottomed out as well. And at some point during all this I had a little cyano and overreacted like an idiot and added a skimmer. Long story short it wasn't long before dinos took over.

To combat them I researched and decided going dirty was the answer so I started feeding nls pellets 2x a day as well as reef roids 1x. I couldn't get po4 up so I started feeding rods food as well once a day. I then started to see other algae and kept with this routine. I didn't clean the glass or do any water changes until I finally had detectable po4. This took 3 weeks.

When I finally cleaned the glass dinos were gone and the corals that weren't already hit hard by dinos looked better than ever. I now realize I was starving them.

Now I just aim to keep no3 at or below 20ppm and po4 below 0.1. And that's just to limit excess algae/cyano. I think ive found the balance to do so by continuing the heavy feeding, running a skimmer, but no chemical filtration(though I did run chemi Blu a few days to get po4 back under 0.1), and doing around a 15% weekly wc.
 
Will a Bubble Tip survive a total black-out for 5 days? Research tells me fish can handle it, and other coral may very well not recover, but I'm just curious if a bubble tip could handle 5 days of complete dark.


Thanks.
You could always hope I had a blackout for a few hours and the fish started to look real bad but a battery operated air pump saved them
 
A blackout is only a temporary fix, trust me I have been fighting Dino's for at least 5 months. I have been telling myself not to tear down and start over. Now, they aren't totally clear, but definitely slowly going away.
1. lights are at 60%
2. Invested in a good UV stabilizer
3. syphon (blow) off Dino's from your rock at least two times a day and substrate.
4. change filter every other day.
after 1 week I barely have Dino's on my rock and sand bed is 75% better.

Good Luck.
 

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