Treating mandrin that eats pods QT

Ncreefer · Oct 8, 2017

I'm upgrading tanks. Have a mandrin and a Scopas tang. Scopas broke with ich. He eats fine. mandrin looks like he has a spot. Eat only eats pods. Question how do you quarantine a goby that eats pods?

Jerel · Oct 8, 2017

Introduce pods into the QT.. ?!

Ncreefer · Oct 8, 2017

Jerel said:
Introduce pods into the QT.. ?!

Copper won't kill them?

ngoodermuth · Oct 8, 2017

Nutrimar ova worked for my Mandy. Just feed as often as possible since naturally they graze all day long.

Also, you can treat them for ich using CP if you can get a prescription from your vet.

Ncreefer · Oct 8, 2017

Never qt before I bought from a reliable source and he decided to give it up and spend time with kids. Since it's not a bad case of ich how many days qt? 7-10?

Ncreefer · Oct 8, 2017

ngoodermuth said:
Nutrimar ova worked for my Mandy. Just feed as often as possible since naturally they graze all day long.

Thank you. I'll have to look it up

ngoodermuth · Oct 8, 2017

You'll want to treat both fish for 30 days, and leave your display tank fishless for 76 days.

Here's a good read on it:
Ich (Cryptocaryon irritans)

https://www.reef2reef.com/index.php?threads/Ich-(Cryptocaryon-irritans).191226/

And on treating with CP:
Chloroquine phosphate

https://www.reef2reef.com/index.php?threads/Chloroquine-phosphate.192309/

Ncreefer · Oct 8, 2017

Tearing that display down. Setting my 150 up.

Ncreefer · Oct 8, 2017

It looks like ich because on one of my reefs in the past. Only thing is he don't scratch like they normally do. Don't think it's velvet either

Humblefish · Oct 8, 2017

Ncreefer said:
It looks like ich because on one of my reefs in the past. Only thing is he don't scratch like they normally do. Don't think it's velvet either

If you are sure it's just ich, then TTM would also be an option: https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/tank-transfer-method.192655/

LuckyPhil · Oct 9, 2017

TTM and Baby Brine Shrimp (using a hatchery) works like a charm.
A few hours of the day I have the air stone off and have a torch lighting the bottom of the container to attract the baby brine shrimp and they go crazy for them.

saltyfilmfolks · Oct 9, 2017

Am I wrong? You don't use copper on Mandarins.

I had understood mandarins are resistant to Ich because they are poisonous fish. Thus the bright colors.
Although the parasites may be on the fish it's not likely to stay on the fish. If you just keep the Mandy in qt for 72 days to be sure. You don't medicate for ich just internal parasites. So a Mandy qt can (imo should ) have rocks and chato also.

I would use the nutrimar for sure but include a baby brine as well. Just to make sure they don't come to depend on and expect one food.

If you look at Melev and Paul b feeding articles, you'll be feeding a bit more with the station method so you do need to keep up on water changes and don't let food accumulate.
If you feed a bit of phyto or even spriluna flake food it'll keep the bug population up.

Gotta Mandy? must love bugs.

Humblefish · Oct 9, 2017

saltyfilmfolks said:
I had understood mandarins are resistant to Ich because they are poisonous fish. Thus the bright colors.
Although the parasites may be on the fish it's not likely to stay on the fish. If you just keep the Mandy in qt for 72 days to be sure. You don't medicate for ich just internal parasites. So a Mandy qt can (imo should ) have rocks and chato also..

A public aquarium I advise has found trophonts (postmortem) inside a dragonet's gills, where the mucous coat is reduced in composition.

Therefore, I feel it is advisable to treat them with CP or at least TTM.

saltyfilmfolks · Oct 9, 2017

Humblefish said:
A public aquarium I advise has found trophonts (postmortem) inside a dragonet's gills, where the mucous coat is reduced in composition.

Therefore, I feel it is advisable to treat them with CP or at least TTM.

TTM for sure seems to most commonly advised for scaless fish.

Humblefish · Oct 9, 2017

saltyfilmfolks said:
TTM for sure seems to most commonly advised for scaless fish.

But just for the record, CP is perfectly safe to use on scaleless fish as well.

It was first used by experts seeking a non-copper solution for treating ectoparasites on sharks & rays.

saltyfilmfolks · Oct 9, 2017

Humblefish said:
But just for the record, CP is perfectly safe to use on scaleless fish as well.

It was first used by experts seeking a non-copper solution for treating ectoparasites on shark & rays.

I know.

Ncreefer · Oct 9, 2017

Well pretty sure the Scopas has velvet from a fox face that passed. Setting qt tank up

Ncreefer · Oct 9, 2017

I was acclimating the Scopas to qt. When he was in the container I took a syringe and could blow some of the white specs off? Any ideas?

ngoodermuth · Oct 9, 2017

Have you tried a freshwater dip?

Freshwater Dip

https://www.reef2reef.com/index.php?threads/Freshwater-Dip.248898/

Humblefish · Oct 9, 2017

Ncreefer said:
I was acclimating the Scopas to qt. When he was in the container I took a syringe and could blow some of the white specs off? Any ideas?

Pic? You shouldn't be able to blow any parasites/worms off of a fish. They latch on or embed themselves. A FW dip (mentioned above) will force worms & "surface" parasites to drop off, but only flukes will be visible to the naked eye as white sesame seed looking things.