Treating risky fish

[Wildreefs]

so, if you quarantine every fish, with cooper, general cure and metroplex (to cover the pallet of diseases) and one respected lfs near you say have a Rosey wrasse for $99, however down the road, from a questionable lfs, has the same famished for $50, that is eating, however tranships and is more suspect to diseases, which do you go for?

If those meds truly do wipe out diseases, and the fish is eating there and appears healthy, do you get that one for half the price, or the one with slightly better odds of not having anything for $100.

Again, assuming you quarantine properly with those meds.


Thanks

 

[EmdeReef]

If a fish is eating that’s 2/3 of the battle in my book.

Then you would want to look for signs of disease, swim patterns etc. some disease can be treated if caught early enough, but if there are visible signs of disease then the odds decrease. Then you need to take into account that there can be issues you won’t be able to spot.

Personally, I always go for the best quality I can get even if I know I would quarantine. I also think it’s important to support businesses that take good care of our future pets.

 

[Big G]

That is a great question. The answer may lie in whether you feel your skills and knowledge of treating fish that are in rough shape are up to the task and accepting that despite your efforts, the fish may not make it.

 

[HotRocks]

I would take the cheaper one if you plan to treat anyway.

Keep in mind the LFS that has the one that is "less likely" to have disease is really no less likely, unless they QT or treat fish. They could be running sub-therapuetic meds etc. (Most LFS do so admittedly). This keeps the affliction minimal and the fish will appear clean when they may not be.

Just my .02.

 

[4FordFamily]

I would take the cheaper one if you plan to treat anyway.

Keep in mind the LFS that has the one that is "less likely" to have disease is really no less likely, unless they QT or treat fish. They could be running sub-therapuetic meds etc. (Most LFS do so admittedly). This keeps the affliction minimal and the fish will appear clean when they may not be.

Just my .02.

I would say the LFS is actually likely to have MORE parasites as it's been exposed to more total water systems that have high numbers of fish moving through them. Agree, otherwise.

 

[HotRocks]

I would say the LFS is actually likely to have MORE parasites as it's been exposed to more total water systems that have high numbers of fish moving through them. Agree, otherwise.

They are both LFS's. One is cheaper than the other.

 

[4FordFamily]

They are both LFS's. One is cheaper than the other.

I guess I shouldn’t multitask, I’m bad at it!

Sorry, op!

 

[HotRocks]

I guess I shouldn’t multitask, I’m bad at it!

Sorry, op!

Oh trust me I can't either! Lol

That was the point I was trying to make, they are both equally succeptable and exposed IMO.

 

[ca1ore]

Acquiring a heathy fish is highly correlated to longevity IME. I will always pay more for a healthier fish figuring it'll pay off over time.

 

[vetteguy53081]

The high risk is at the Lfs who have received fish that were transshipped to the wholesaler, then transported to their location and must overcome the stress the fish have endured from transport and multiple water and holding conditions. If they can maintain that fish, it is then up to US to feed and keep them in health and away from Aggression and stress in out own systems.

 

[Halal Hotdog]

When I can pick the exact fish, I always go for the healthiest looking one that is the most aggressive eater. With that said I buy most of my last batches of fish from LiveAquaria. Their two week guarantee is the best I have seen. I gamble on the fish, most of the ones that come in don't eat well, and the powder brown I got on Tuesday might have velvet. Every fish I bring in is quarantined with CP. My lfs no longer offers a guarantee on fish, the chance of parasites is comparable.

I will note that EVERY batch of fish from the California LA shipping facility has come in sick. I can't imagine anyone putting those fish in their DT and having a positive outcome.

Basically long story short, if the $50 is eating well and no major issues with the body, I would get that one and pretreat with meds. IMO every fish from the lfs needs to be treated for parasites before introducing into a DT. I feel now a day's most fish are carrying something.

 

[TheRealDmorty217]

When I can pick the exact fish, I always go for the healthiest looking one that is the most aggressive eater. With that said I buy most of my last batches of fish from LiveAquaria. Their two week guarantee is the best I have seen. I gamble on the fish, most of the ones that come in don't eat well, and the powder brown I got on Tuesday might have velvet. Every fish I bring in is quarantined with CP. My lfs no longer offers a guarantee on fish, the chance of parasites is comparable.

I will note that EVERY batch of fish from the California LA shipping facility has come in sick. I can't imagine anyone putting those fish in their DT and having a positive outcome.

Basically long story short, if the $50 is eating well and no major issues with the body, I would get that one and pretreat with meds. IMO every fish from the lfs needs to be treated for parasites before introducing into a DT. I feel now a day's most fish are carrying something.

Quality Marine (where every fish from LA that isn’t from DD comes from) is going to have disease. There are way too many fish that are in their systems and fish come and go daily, some in less than 48 hrs so disease is inevitable. I QT all fish no matter where they come from with CP as well and have been very successful doing this

 

[Fishfinder]

I must be the only person that hasn’t had a sick fish from live aquaria. I have always received nice looking fish with no visible signs

 

[4FordFamily]

I can second sick fish from LA, but I think it's endemic everywhere.

 

[Halal Hotdog]

I must be the only person that hasn’t had a sick fish from live aquaria. I have always received nice looking fish with no visible signs

I am very surprised to read that with what I am seeing in their boxes. None of my fish were covered in parasites, but definitely demonstrated classical behavioral signs of being infected. After two weeks of CP and two doses of GC they started behaving more typical of a healthy fish. Haven't had a single fish from them that ate frozen food well from the beginning.

 

[TheRealDmorty217]

I don’t blame QM for sick fish, it’s part of wholesaling fish. We should all be thankful that LA will refund you the money back to your bank account. Apparently back in July they stopped offering a credit and only refund now, no other place does that let alone after 2 weeks.

 

[um02122]

I have three LFSs in my area.
If you go in each often enough you see how much live stock does poorly.

The closest shop has always expensive fish that wait for ages and end up belly up and a lot of fish with suspicious behaviour. I'll only buy dry products from there (eg. Auto feeder when going on holiday on short notice).

The other two LFSs have healthy greedy fish and I've never had bad experiences with their fishes.

I also like to observe a fish I like at the LFS for a couple of weeks before buying. And if it sells, then it wasn't meant to be mine.

 

[Randy Ruiz]

so, if you quarantine every fish, with cooper, general cure and metroplex (to cover the pallet of diseases) and one respected lfs near you say have a Rosey wrasse for $99, however down the road, from a questionable lfs, has the same famished for $50, that is eating, however tranships and is more suspect to diseases, which do you go for?

If those meds truly do wipe out diseases, and the fish is eating there and appears healthy, do you get that one for half the price, or the one with slightly better odds of not having anything for $100.

Again, assuming you quarantine properly with those meds.


Thanks

I never like to start behind the 8 ball. Would definitely go for the $100 one for better odds & don't need a other project.