Treating Tank for Velvet?

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I think that 2 of my fish may have velvet. One of my clowns has super what looks like white dust. It's very very faint. He is acting totally fine. My Royal Gramma, has begun to have labored breathing, swimming to the top of the tank, not eat. He also has what appears to be very very faint white dust.

My question is how do I treat the other fish? I have in total 2 clowns, royal gramma, coral beauty and flame angel. If I need to move them all to a QT, what size tank is adequate? I only have a spare 10G at the moment. Do I need to treat them all?
 
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pinocchio said:
I think that 2 of my fish may have velvet. One of my clowns has super what looks like white dust. It's very very faint. He is acting totally fine. My Royal Gramma, has begun to have labored breathing, swimming to the top of the tank, not eat. He also has what appears to be very very faint white dust.

My question is how do I treat the other fish? I have in total 2 clowns, royal gramma, coral beauty and flame angel. If I need to move them all to a QT, what size tank is adequate? I only have a spare 10G at the moment. Do I need to treat them all?
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White light pics and video would be helpful so we don't misdiagnose. If sure it's velvet then a qt tank with coppersafe or copper power at 2.25 for 30 days while display is fallow for 46 day is best.
 
Jekyl said:
White light pics and video would be helpful so we don't misdiagnose. If sure it's velvet then a qt tank with coppersafe or copper power at 2.25 for 30 days while display is fallow for 46 day is best.
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pinocchio said:
I think that 2 of my fish may have velvet. One of my clowns has super what looks like white dust. It's very very faint. He is acting totally fine. My Royal Gramma, has begun to have labored breathing, swimming to the top of the tank, not eat. He also has what appears to be very very faint white dust.

My question is how do I treat the other fish? I have in total 2 clowns, royal gramma, coral beauty and flame angel. If I need to move them all to a QT, what size tank is adequate? I only have a spare 10G at the moment. Do I need to treat them all?
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whether much or velvet, apply coppersafe or copper power for a full 30 days at treatment level 2.25 monitored by Hanna brand copper test kit and add aeration during treatment
Additionally, maintain good water quality and treat all fish exposed and leave display tank without any fish for 6-8 weeks
Please post pics or video under white light intensity for clear identification
Some symptoms of velvet are heavy breathing, loss of appetite, swimming in path of flow, gasping at surface as examples
 
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pinocchio said:
I think that 2 of my fish may have velvet. One of my clowns has super what looks like white dust. It's very very faint. He is acting totally fine. My Royal Gramma, has begun to have labored breathing, swimming to the top of the tank, not eat. He also has what appears to be very very faint white dust.

My question is how do I treat the other fish? I have in total 2 clowns, royal gramma, coral beauty and flame angel. If I need to move them all to a QT, what size tank is adequate? I only have a spare 10G at the moment. Do I need to treat them all?
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If they have velvet you would have to treat them all - and leave your other tank fallow for 6-8 weeks. while you're waiting, I would treat them with prazipro per protocol as well. The labored breathing points to a gill issue. I'm assuming all of your other parameters are fine?
 
A clear video under white lights would help with the diagnosis, but it may well be velvet, and that disease kills so quickly that time is of the essence here. The best treatment would be coppersafe in a quarantine tank of all fish, getting to a full dose, measured with a Hanna meter within 24 hours. I think a ten gallon tank would be too small for those fish, especially the two angels.
 
Jay Hemdal said:
A clear video under white lights would help with the diagnosis, but it may well be velvet, and that disease kills so quickly that time is of the essence here. The best treatment would be coppersafe in a quarantine tank of all fish, getting to a full dose, measured with a Hanna meter within 24 hours. I think a ten gallon tank would be too small for those fish, especially the two angels.
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Here are videos. With the white lights, maybe the "white dust" I think I am seeing isn't actually there. Either way, the Royal Gramma who generally does hide in rocks, has been acting super strange. Going to the very top near the gyre for hours, and then laying on the rocks breathing and looking like this. Thoughts? I have also included the clown who I also thought had some white dust. His mouth has always been a bit white like what you seen in the video since I got him a couple years ago, that is normal.
 

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pinocchio said:
Here are videos. With the white lights, maybe the "white dust" I think I am seeing isn't actually there. Either way, the Royal Gramma who generally does hide in rocks, has been acting super strange. Going to the very top near the gyre for hours, and then laying on the rocks breathing and looking like this. Thoughts? I have also included the clown who I also thought had some white dust. His mouth has always been a bit white like what you seen in the video since I got him a couple years ago, that is normal.
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That does look like velvet, I would treat with coppersafe at a full 2.25 ppm dose right away (no invertebrates of course).
 
Can I put all fish in a 10g? Should I just start with royal gramma and clown? And it's OK to go straight to 2.25?
 
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It is ok to go straight to 2.25.
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Yes, as long as you are measuring the copper accurately, you can put fish straight into 2.25 coppersafe with no issues.

As I said yesterday though, I think the 10 gallon is too small.
 
Jay Hemdal said:
Yes, as long as you are measuring the copper accurately, you can put fish straight into 2.25 coppersafe with no issues.

As I said yesterday though, I think the 10 gallon is too small.
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Ok, thanks! And my bad, didn't see your comment about the 10g.
 
Don't forget to pour a big ol' bottle of cycling bacteria (with a biosponge) into the QT. I recommend the fritz products and/or biospira.
 
Is 2.39 too high for copper? Should I adjust or is it still within a good threshold?
 

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