Treatment options without Cupermine

[BannerFish]

Hello Experts

I used to use Cupermine for my quarantine process but I've run out of it and non of my LFS has it due to lockdown. I do have some copper sulfate with me.

I found following formula to calculate the copper dosage in a website

i.e find the current alkalinity in ppm(say 120 ppm)

120/100 = 1.2 ppm is the dosage

Please confirm if this is correct

Thanks

Faz

 

[vetteguy53081]

Hello Experts

I used to use Cupermine for my quarantine process but I've run out of it and non of my LFS has it due to lockdown. I do have some copper sulfate with me.

I found following formula to calculate the copper dosage in a website

i.e find the current alkalinity in ppm(say 120 ppm)

120/100 = 1.2 ppm is the dosage

Please confirm if this is correct

Thanks

Faz

Hyposalinity - gradually bringing down to 1.010
Tank transfer method

coppersafe

ruby rally reef - this works slow

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

Hello Experts

I used to use Cupermine for my quarantine process but I've run out of it and non of my LFS has it due to lockdown. I do have some copper sulfate with me.

I found following formula to calculate the copper dosage in a website

i.e find the current alkalinity in ppm(say 120 ppm)

120/100 = 1.2 ppm is the dosage

Please confirm if this is correct

Thanks

Faz

Don’t use copper sulfate! Without chelating agents it is more toxic and needs to be dosed at 0.20 ppm- and that requires a special test kit. @vetteguy53081 has some good options - coppersafe or hyposalinity.
Jay

 

[nereefpat]

Copper Power is similar to Copper Safe. Amazon has it, so you could have it in a couple days.

 

[SteveMM62Reef]

Some of the PetCo’s have Copper Treatments. Just go slow and test often. Copper Power is my Preference, though.

 

[vetteguy53081]

Copper power power and copper safe are both chelates forms as copper power is a little milder than copper safe
I prefer then- copper safe and highly recommend testing with Hanna copper kit, not API

 

[BannerFish]

I should have been bit more clearer ... I live in Sri lanka at this point getting anything from ebay or Amazon is out of the question.

I get my fish from a whole seller so definitely they have velvet therefore hospitality is not an option. I treat my fish assuming they have velvet.

I heard that you can mix copper sulfate with citric acid to make it safer, is there any truth to this?

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

I should have been bit more clearer ... I live in Sri lanka at this point getting anything from ebay or Amazon is out of the question.

I get my fish from a whole seller so definitely they have velvet therefore hospitality is not an option. I treat my fish assuming they have velvet.

I heard that you can mix copper sulfate with citric acid to make it safer, is there any truth to this?

Here are the instructions for copper sulfate/citric acid that I had written up years ago. This requires a precision test kit though!

Copper sulfate stock solution
Dissolve 13.6 grams of CuSO4 or 21.3 grams of CuSO4 x 5 H2O into 1000 ml of distilled water.
Add 9.1 grams of citric acid.
Store in dark glass or plastic bottle.

Calculating dosage:
The target concentration of ionic copper is usually 0.20 ppm. 1 ml of the stock solution will treat 7 gallons of water at that level.

Treating the tank:
Twice a day, the tank is tested with a copper test kit. The Hach Porphyrin method seems to give the most accurate results. Simply re-dose the copper stock solution in accordance with the current copper reading: a reading of .15 ppm indicates that a 1/4 dose should be added, etc.

Jay

 

[BannerFish]

Here are the instructions for copper sulfate/citric acid that I had written up years ago. This requires a precision test kit though!

Copper sulfate stock solution
Dissolve 13.6 grams of CuSO4 or 21.3 grams of CuSO4 x 5 H2O into 1000 ml of distilled water.
Add 9.1 grams of citric acid.
Store in dark glass or plastic bottle.

Calculating dosage:
The target concentration of ionic copper is usually 0.20 ppm. 1 ml of the stock solution will treat 7 gallons of water at that level.

Treating the tank:
Twice a day, the tank is tested with a copper test kit. The Hach Porphyrin method seems to give the most accurate results. Simply re-dose the copper stock solution in accordance with the current copper reading: a reading of .15 ppm indicates that a 1/4 dose should be added, etc.

Jay

Thank you so much !!!