Trident FAQ (official)

Bastray · Jul 23, 2019

When using the Trident controlled dosing, is there a testing schedule that is better than another to keep the levels stable. Right now I'm testing 6 times a day and it seems fine. If I drop to 4 does that lessen the stability? If I increase it to 8 does that actually increase the stability? Or is it so negligible it doesnt matter what my testing schedule is?

CMO · Jul 23, 2019

What size is the nipple for the Trident waste hose? I want to add a nipple to my waste container to attache the line. Thank you

Supareefer · Jul 24, 2019

After updating apex, it now says "A module is running outdated software" its my trident.

how do you update the trident ?

jonmos75 · Jul 25, 2019

Supareefer said:
After updating apex, it now says "A module is running outdated software" its my trident.

how do you update the trident ?

The icons and layout have slightly changed in the video, but you will get the just of how to update the modules

JAMSOURY · Jul 26, 2019

Seeing how many people calibrated their trident. So it’s not necessary if numbers seem good?

Tuoixuanxanh · Jul 26, 2019

Is there issue fusion 7/26? All the data on my trident is gone and trident orange light flashing.

MnFish1 · Jul 26, 2019

seems like its working fine

MnFish1 · Jul 26, 2019

JAMSOURY said:
Seeing how many people calibrated their trident. So it’s not necessary if numbers seem good?

If all else fails follow the directions

lactose · Jul 26, 2019

MnFish1 said:
If all else fails follow the directions

I would see no reason in my experience not to calibrate. I've done with every set of new reagents per instructions and kept everything consistent in my case

Hogan · Jul 26, 2019

I've been running the Trident for about 2 weeks now. It runs pretty well and had actually been really close to what I manual test as a spot check until yesterday. For some reason all of a sudden it gave a calcium reading in the 200's. I though it was a fluke, so I had it do another test and the reading came back in the 200's again. I checked it when I got home and it tested (red sea) around 370 which it right where it had been running. Later in the evening, the trident tested back up in the 350s so I thought all was right in the world. But, it just test and did it again back in the 200s. Any idea why it's doing this?

Also is there a way to just have it test calcium instead of all of the tests? I see it can test just alk, but I don't see a button for just calc.

lactose · Jul 26, 2019

Hogan said:
I've been running the Trident for about 2 weeks now. It runs pretty well and had actually been really close to what I manual test as a spot check until yesterday. For some reason all of a sudden it gave a calcium reading in the 200's. I though it was a fluke, so I had it do another test and the reading came back in the 200's again. I checked it when I got home and it tested (red sea) around 370 which it right where it had been running. Later in the evening, the trident tested back up in the 350s so I thought all was right in the world. But, it just test and did it again back in the 200s. Any idea why it's doing this?

I am not sure if this would cause high or low readings but any chance there are microbubbles sneaking in to the line during that time (like a skimmer overflow or something changed)?

Hogan · Jul 26, 2019

lactose said:
I am not sure if this would cause high or low readings but any chance there are microbubbles sneaking in to the line during that time (like a skimmer overflow or something changed)?

That's a good idea that I hadn't thought of, but I don't think so. The only thing that could cause micro bubble is if the ATO was on right when it was testing. But the odds of that happening over and over every time I tell it to manual test aren't very good.

lactose · Jul 26, 2019

Hogan said:
That's a good idea that I hadn't thought of, but I don't think so. The only thing that could cause micro bubble is if the ATO was on right when it was testing. But the odds of that happening over and over every time I tell it to manual test aren't very good.

How far apart in time were the two 200's tests?

Hogan · Jul 26, 2019

lactose said:
How far apart in time were the two 200's tests?

I posted the graph above. But they were a day apart.

Hogan · Jul 26, 2019

It also wasn't just one test. I had it do 3 or 4 manual tests after I got the initial 200s test and they were all consistent in the 200s. Same thing today.

lactose · Jul 26, 2019

Hogan said:
It also wasn't just one test. I had it do 3 or 4 manual tests after I got the initial 200s test and they were all consistent in the 200s. Same thing today.

Sorry I missed the graph. If it were just those two which look to be around the same times each day I would suspect something acting in the tank to change the water that gets sucked in (ATO running, microbubbles in sample, bubbles in calcium dosing assuming you are, consumption spiking during lighting and not being replenished by dosing until later etc.) But if it were multiple manual tests then I am stumped.

I have two running on two tanks and they have been rock solid consistent (following trends of course)and only once did I get a test that was ~30ppm off on the calcium from before that and after but I chalked that up partially to margin of error they report and maybe a bit of a spike in consumption (was during lights).

As per your first post questions, there is only the option for Alk or Combined (all three) no option for just Ca, Mag or Ca+Mag

lactose · Jul 29, 2019

Question re: controlled dosing:

Does it adjust the total & frequency within a dosing period or adjust only the amount in a single dose?

Reason I ask is I have it setup on a coral QT tank that at the moment doesn't have many frags so isn't consuming too too much. One of the dosing periods is something like 47 doses of .1 ml each. I can't imagine the DOS can do .135 or .65 ml (aka +/- 35% of .1ml) in a single dose so I am not seeing adjustments being made and therefore am assuming it doesn't adjust the overall amount/frequency just each dose in a period which makes sense to me but wanted to verify.

Edit: (nevermind)
I did the math wrong (somewhere in there I stopped having 60 mins in an hour! - must be a monday thing)
It is actually set to dose .1ml every X mins but the interval is changing over the course of today so it has been making a difference in frequency! This is extra awesome)

TX_Punisher · Jul 29, 2019

Finally arrived. It’s worth the wait!

robmiller2 · Jul 29, 2019

My calcium test is way off, measuring over 600. I tested with both my Hanna and Red Sea test kits and they were 417 and 422. My Alk and Mag have not had any testing trouble. Why would this be happening? I calibrated about two weeks ago now.