Trigger: Can anyone ID what is going on here?

rbraunberger · Mar 9, 2017

Hello,

I noticed these spots on my trigger this morning. Any ideas?

Thanks for the help!

rbraunberger · Mar 9, 2017

And ignore his fin "bite" marks....he has a very friendly purple tang that picked on him for a couple of days after his QT stay

4FordFamily · Mar 9, 2017

I see those spots, I cannot tell if ich or velvet -- how quickly did those appear? (Over the course of a week slowly increasing in number or seemingly overnight)

Any other symptoms? (Swimming in to powerheads, flashing, scratching, hiding from light, heavy breathing, etc)

Also, when was the last time you added something wet to the tank? Last fish that was not treated for 30 days in thereapeitic level copper or CP in quarantine?

Humblefish · Mar 9, 2017

The shape of them looks like sand to me. You will know for sure by tonight; if they are still there then it's not sand stuck to the mucous coat.

rbraunberger · Mar 9, 2017

Humblefish said:
The shape of them looks like sand to me. You will know for sure by tonight; if they are still there then it's not sand stuck to the mucous coat.

4FordFamily said:
I see those spots, I cannot tell if ich or velvet -- how quickly did those appear? (Over the course of a week slowly increasing in number or seemingly overnight)

Any other symptoms? (Swimming in to powerheads, flashing, scratching, hiding from light, heavy breathing, etc)

Also, when was the last time you added something wet to the tank? Last fish that was not treated for 30 days in thereapeitic level copper or CP in quarantine?

Thanks for the replies. He seems to be acting fine. He was scratching a bit this morning, but that was brief and not long lasting. That is what alerted me to the spots to start with. I did not notice them yesterday. He ate fine this morning, and when I just looked at him again he was begging for food. I made a video so you can better see breathing and behavior.

Let me know what you think!

rbraunberger · Mar 9, 2017

sorry iPhone video...it would not let me upload HD video

rbraunberger · Mar 9, 2017

trying to get HD uploaded now...will update link when I get it working

rbraunberger · Mar 9, 2017

4FordFamily said:
I see those spots, I cannot tell if ich or velvet -- how quickly did those appear? (Over the course of a week slowly increasing in number or seemingly overnight)

Any other symptoms? (Swimming in to powerheads, flashing, scratching, hiding from light, heavy breathing, etc)

Also, when was the last time you added something wet to the tank? Last fish that was not treated for 30 days in thereapeitic level copper or CP in quarantine?

Also he was the last fished added to the tank, and was QT with cupramine

Humblefish · Mar 9, 2017

I can't tell from the video, but is he breathing rapidly? Also, it does concern me that he is hanging so close to the flow of your powerhead (velvet).

4FordFamily · Mar 9, 2017

Humblefish said:
I can't tell from the video, but is he breathing rapidly? Also, it does concern me that he is hanging so close to the flow of your powerhead (velvet).

Agree, this concerns me as well

rbraunberger · Mar 9, 2017

ok...here is HD video

Make sure you change the quality to max, and you can see him really well

Empress · Mar 9, 2017

Swimming in the powerhead. And it looks like some of that white stuff coming off. Velvet or brook?

rbraunberger · Mar 9, 2017

Ok all...I checked on him again and what ever was there is now all gone. He has some scratches on his side but other than that the white material is gone. Should I move him to QT again for another 30 days or watch to see if the white comes back? Thanks again for all of the advice!

Humblefish · Mar 9, 2017

rbraunberger said:
Ok all...I checked on him again and what ever was there is now all gone. He has some scratches on his side but other than that the white material is gone. Should I move him to QT again for another 30 days or watch to see if the white comes back? Thanks again for all of the advice!

I would wait & see for now.

Empress · Mar 9, 2017

I saw some of that white stuff start to fall off in the video. Here's a dumb question, but can fish have dry, flaky skin?

4FordFamily · Mar 9, 2017

Humblefish said:
I would wait & see for now.

X2

Humblefish · Mar 9, 2017

Empress said:
can fish have dry, flaky skin?

No, but skin peeling is a symptom of Brooklynella: https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/brooklynella.247938/

rbraunberger · Mar 9, 2017

Empress said:
I saw some of that white stuff start to fall off in the video. Here's a dumb question, but can fish have dry, flaky skin?

No idea what is was...he was rubbing a bit, but other than that acting totally normal for him...he was by the WAVs but he usually is since the large purple tang keeps his distance....no idea what it was...did not have the clearing like I have seen with ich before...lost a clown in QT to brook and it looked nothing like that....maybe it was just some sand that was in his slim layer and was bothering him....time will tell