Trigger has something I don't know what it is ?

[427HISS]

He has white spots and I've gave him two fresh water dips. The first made him feel a lot better, but not the second time. The white spots are still there and his fins also look cloudy and spotty. The last sick fish I had, came to find out was worms, and the dip worked great, falling off to the bottom of the container, but I don't believe this trigger has the worms.

Does he have something other than ick ?

 

[melypr1985]

Do you have a picture? Are the white spots too numerous to count? Heavy breathing?

 

[Humblefish]

Do you have a picture? Are the white spots too numerous to count? Heavy breathing?

^^This. Need to know whether we are dealing with velvet or ich here. Also, is the fish acting reclusive (staying out of the light) and/or swimming into the flow of a powerhead?

 

[Triggreef]

So I recently took a great photo of a purple tang with both ich and velvet that I spotted (get the pun?) At my local fish store. They say they will treat it but I have doubts. Anyway no thread derails please, it happens. I took the photo specifically to show the difference easily. So here it is, you can count the ich spots easy, the velvet spots, can't really count those.

 

[melypr1985]

So I recently took a great photo of a purple tang with both ich and velvet that I spotted (get the pun?) At my local fish store. They say they will treat it but I have doubts. Anyway no thread derails please, it happens. I took the photo specifically to shore the difference easily. So here it is, you can count the ich spots easy, the velvet spots, can't really count those.

Very nice picture!

 

[Humblefish]

Good photo @Triggreef! Below is one of a PT with a serious velvet infestation. It's zoomed in, so that makes the dots look bigger, but you can see the "too many to count" theory in play. Also notice the dark splotches on it's body where trophonts have absorbed nutrients and already dropped off.



And here's a Dogface Puffer with just ich:

 

[Triggreef]

And the velvet goes over the eyes like crazy as well, I wish I had gotten a better pic of that now that I think of it. @Humblefish man this thread gives me the creeps now looking at these pics. Brings back memories of fallow periods with that dog face puffer.

 

[427HISS]

Sad to report, he passed away. I wish I had taken a photo after I pulled him from the tank, so show you guys to see if you could identify the size & shape of the spots. I will not trust any of the shipped or local stores practicies as far as quarantining.

Is there a medication that really helps a few different types of sickness, ick, velvet etc., (one cure for all)
or a must identify approach with specific medications ?

We've lost four new fish the last six months (and two clams) due to sickness, but saved two. We treat all like family, so these loss's are heavy.

So, I'm thinking of setting up a used 14g BioCube I have, and making it a hospital tank for all,.......new arrivials we buy. No rock or sand. I have a few sponges in other tanks that I can use as a biologicial filter.

I believe I'll start a new thread on how to create a great useful hospital tank, so please stop by and give your thoughts, photo's and experience !
Kevin

 

[melypr1985]

Sad to report, he passed away. I wish I had taken a photo after I pulled him from the tank, so show you guys to see if you could identify the size & shape of the spots. I will not trust any of the shipped or local stores practicies as far as quarantining.

Is there a medication that really helps a few different types of sickness, ick, velvet etc., (one cure for all)
or a must identify approach with specific medications ?

We've lost four new fish the last six months (and two clams) due to sickness, but saved two. We treat all like family, so these loss's are heavy.

So, I'm thinking of setting up a used 14g BioCube I have, and making it a hospital tank for all,.......new arrivials we buy. No rock or sand. I have a few sponges in other tanks that I can use as a biologicial filter.

I believe I'll start a new thread on how to create a great useful hospital tank, so please stop by and give your thoughts, photo's and experience !
Kevin

Hi Kevin. I'm sorry for your loss. If you can get your hands on it, Chloroquine Phosphate (my spelling is atrocious) will treat a lot of things. Just that, an antibiotic and prazi would fill out your medicine cabinet.

 

[Triggreef]

So where are you at with fish that are currently in your tank? If there are still fish in there, they will need to be treated or you are basically sending any new arrivals to their death sentence.

 

[427HISS]

Thanks. The Clown Trigger,.......is our favorite fish, so he was very hard to loose.
Are those packaged meds or bulk chemicials that need doseage amounts ?

The two fish is a peach damsel and a little green chromis. Both have been in the quarrantine tank for about a year, and both have never,.....got sick ! But, two other fish have died. I know damsels are tough, but they must be the toughest ! Lol......

 

[melypr1985]

Thanks. The Clown Trigger,.......is our favorite fish, so he was very hard to loose.
Are those packaged meds or bulk chemicials that need doseage amounts ?

The two fish is a peach damsel and a little green chromis. Both have been in the quarrantine tank for about a year, and both have never,.....got sick ! But, two other fish have died. I know damsels are tough, but they must be the toughest ! Lol......

CP is something you'll need a script for from a vet and get it filled at a pharmacy. It's not easy to get, but there is some literature you can show the vet to maybe convince them to give it to you. The rest are packaged and have dosing direction on them.

 

[Humblefish]

First thing I recommend is you go fallow (fishless) in the DT for 76 days. This will essentially starve any diseases out of there, without a fish host to feed upon.

Second thing is to setup & establish a QT protocol moving forward. Reading this may help: https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/how-to-quarantine.189815/

How you QT is just as important as the meds you use to treat the fish. There is no "silver bullet" when it comes to treating fish diseases. Every situation is a little different and will require a slightly altered approach.

 

[Triggreef]

Clown triggered are extremely hardy. Sorry for your loss. Hopefully you take this as an opportunity to learn about qt and start from square one. Rest assured once you set up a good quarantine regimen it is much cheaper in the long run than losing expensive fish all the time. You'll see it's a much better hobby when you only have to buy a fish one time.

 

[427HISS]

I do have a quarantine tank, just not a hospital tank, but plan on setting one up.
The fish that died were sick just a couple of days after buying them. We're stopped buying at the local fish store, after hearing from many other's that
their fish were also sick. The two Damsels have been in the quarantine tank for a year, and the last Clown Trigger was the only added fish in the past
8 months or so. The other fish were bought on the internet and were in a different tank, which also were sick.

So, now ALL fish will go into the hospital tank then, into the quarantine.

Luckily, I never placed any in the large display tank !

 

[427HISS]

Did your Purple Tang survive ? (Love them too) !