True of false perc? Photos

[CSJIII]

I want to get a mate for my clown. Can you t ell if it is a true perc or a false perc?

 

[ReeferBean]

My guess would be an ocellaris. You can tell by the number of dorsal spines and the color of the eyes but I can never tell in pics or in person for that matter. But I think black and whites are usually false percs.

 

[CSJIII]

My guess would be an ocellaris. You can tell by the number of dorsal spines and the color of the eyes but I can never tell in pics or in person for that matter. But I think black and whites are usually false percs.

I had read that true percs ...

Usually has jet black margins of varied widths around its white bars, often of which can be rather ​

thick.

 

[GHill762]

one has orange rings around the eyes (iris?) the other has black.. I think perc=orange occy=black.. it's gotten harder to tell anymore imo...

 

[rajkovich207]

The breeder I got my clowns from said the only true way to tell is that true percs have perfectly round pupils and a falses will come to a rounded point at the part closest to the mouth

 

[CSJIII]

So I have to check its pupils?


Chas

 

[altolamprologus]

A. ocellaris (false perc). It's a variant known as a "mocha" clown which is a cross between a black and white ocellaris and a regular orange ocellaris. You can tell by just the general body shape, color of the eyes (true percs have pure orange eyes) and the number of dorsal spines (ocellaris have 11, like yours, and percs have 9-10)

 

[CSJIII]

Thank you!


Chas

 

[ShannPeach]

A. ocellaris (false perc). It's a variant known as a "mocha" clown which is a cross between a black and white ocellaris and a regular orange ocellaris. You can tell by just the general body shape, color of the eyes (true percs have pure orange eyes) and the number of dorsal spines (ocellaris have 11, like yours, and percs have 9-10)

I'm not so sure this is a "mocha". I have 25 juvenile mochas from my Darwin x regular ocellaris mix and they are not nearly that black. They have more of a rusty/burnt orange coloration to them.

How old is the fish in the picture? Darwin/B&W ocellaris take quite a long time to gain full black coloration, especially in the face. Do you know anything about the parents? Is it wild caught?

 

[CSJIII]

The photo was taken about 10 minutes before I posted it. I have no idea of the history of it. I have had it for about 5 years now.


Chas

 

[altolamprologus]

I'm not so sure this is a "mocha". I have 25 juvenile mochas from my Darwin x regular ocellaris mix and they are not nearly that black. They have more of a rusty/burnt orange coloration to them.

How old is the fish in the picture? Darwin/B&W ocellaris take quite a long time to gain full black coloration, especially in the face. Do you know anything about the parents? Is it wild caught?

Give your babies about a year or two and they'll look like that. They start out dark orange and slowly become blacker over time with the small orange spots becoming brighter. Here's my friend's pair of mocha clowns that are about 5 years old. They kept darkening for the first few years of life

See the male? Some mochas get extreme amounts of black on them, and this one has almost the exact same coloration as the OP's clown.