Posting a poll, not to win points or bolster an ego, but just to get the true info out there.
What I think is probably one of the worst things in the hobby is misinformation. Just like someone relying on web MD to find out what Illness they have, I too have fallen victim to awful information. A thread 3 years ago can tell me to use metro, where today those uses are no longer accepted.
It’s not that situations revolving around facts have changed, just that in this hobby few actual studies are done and only limited data is compiled. So often what we read is what is believed best at that given point in time, which with no concrete evidence, changes on the fly.
I am sure there are good reasons for TTM. If you know for sure you only have crypto on your hands, then yes, that will work. However, I’d venture to say , without a Gil scrape, there is no way of knowing that for sure. And just like with corals, shouldn’t dose what you can’t test and know for sure you are low on or in need of.
TTM sounds like a good way to deal with KNOWN ich, and ich only. Also would make for great water quality, provided you use enough volume for appropriate bioload. ( 2 inch goby or wrasse per 5 gallons etc, 20 gallons for any type of acanthurus tang, minimum)
apart from that, unless you have a gil scrape, or other empirical way of knowing with certainty you have ich, I can’t see it as a useful treatment with peace of Mind. Some are risk takers, and throw it in there when they get it. Others wanna go 72 days fallow so they pay now and not think about what ifs later.
knowing the abundance of velvet out there , I think almost all vendors have it. In last year, from 4 different vendors, I have had the pleasure of seeing it pop up in sterile qts. Some I caught early enough, others the damage was too far gone to stop.
now if this hydrogen peroxide idea comes to fruition, and works consistency every time on velvet, I can see this being a great step. But then the whole reason for this TTM is to avoid chemicals, and just rely on 100 percent sterile changes every 72 hours. The peroxide would be a chemical added, just like copper added, and no longer just relying on clean, sterile tanks and mechanically flushing the parasites.
again, not settling anything here, just seeing honestly how many people use it and don’t get velvet. Or what their strategy is when they do see velvet . I’m guessing if it happens at the rate I see and hear it, they stop ttm, and go to copper, which is what o would have preferred and using all along.
What I think is probably one of the worst things in the hobby is misinformation. Just like someone relying on web MD to find out what Illness they have, I too have fallen victim to awful information. A thread 3 years ago can tell me to use metro, where today those uses are no longer accepted.
It’s not that situations revolving around facts have changed, just that in this hobby few actual studies are done and only limited data is compiled. So often what we read is what is believed best at that given point in time, which with no concrete evidence, changes on the fly.
I am sure there are good reasons for TTM. If you know for sure you only have crypto on your hands, then yes, that will work. However, I’d venture to say , without a Gil scrape, there is no way of knowing that for sure. And just like with corals, shouldn’t dose what you can’t test and know for sure you are low on or in need of.
TTM sounds like a good way to deal with KNOWN ich, and ich only. Also would make for great water quality, provided you use enough volume for appropriate bioload. ( 2 inch goby or wrasse per 5 gallons etc, 20 gallons for any type of acanthurus tang, minimum)
apart from that, unless you have a gil scrape, or other empirical way of knowing with certainty you have ich, I can’t see it as a useful treatment with peace of Mind. Some are risk takers, and throw it in there when they get it. Others wanna go 72 days fallow so they pay now and not think about what ifs later.
knowing the abundance of velvet out there , I think almost all vendors have it. In last year, from 4 different vendors, I have had the pleasure of seeing it pop up in sterile qts. Some I caught early enough, others the damage was too far gone to stop.
now if this hydrogen peroxide idea comes to fruition, and works consistency every time on velvet, I can see this being a great step. But then the whole reason for this TTM is to avoid chemicals, and just rely on 100 percent sterile changes every 72 hours. The peroxide would be a chemical added, just like copper added, and no longer just relying on clean, sterile tanks and mechanically flushing the parasites.
again, not settling anything here, just seeing honestly how many people use it and don’t get velvet. Or what their strategy is when they do see velvet . I’m guessing if it happens at the rate I see and hear it, they stop ttm, and go to copper, which is what o would have preferred and using all along.
