Turtle's Deep Blue Sea

[Scurvy]

Hate to say but its sounding like Dino’s. At least thats all ive seen grow over and kill otherwise healthy coral.

I was brand new when I battled it and assumed it was cyano. Now id say it was most likely due to bottoming out Nitrates/Phosphate I went with a 3 day black out and dosed stump remover to get my Nitrates up and it cleared. Water changes only made it worse.

 

[SashimiTurtle]

@Scurvy... I'm almost certain it's dinosaurs... I had them in the nano when it was a functioning reef. Three day blackout and +1ml H2O2 per 10g tank water per day and that took care of it. Probably going to do that here.

Here's a few pics from just now. Popped the Kessils on for a minute but otherwise it's the middle of the night for the tank. Looks pretty clear compaired to last night, which lines up exactly how dinos act. Come on strong with the lights and fade away at night.

The forest fire seems to be the only coral effected by them right now. The bonsai frags still look good, which I'm glad of. Thats one of my favorite corals.

Shower, bed... I'll update y'all when I see what it looks like after the lights have been on. I'm also going to do a full battery of tests. It's been a minute since I tested something other than alk.

 

[Slicktop]

Turtle, I have some Cheato if you want some before your order arrives. I just got caught up on your thread. I m in Lugoff

 

[SashimiTurtle]

Turtle, I have some Cheato if you want some before your order arrives. I just got caught up on your thread. I m in Lugoff

Sweet, I'm off this week. Send me a pm we'll get the details ironed out.

 

[Scurvy]

Yep, doesnt look so bad in the morning but by end of day it makes you sick. Id also suggest running a sock or floss to catch them as they swim/float at night. From what ive read there’s so many different breads of dinosaurs the effective treatments vary.

I cant even count how many frags i lost before realizing what i was dealing with. My newbie reaction was water changes which was oh so wrong.

 

[Zack K]

Definitely Dino’s. Sorry turtle.

 

[SashimiTurtle]

Yep, doesnt look so bad in the morning but by end of day it makes you sick. Id also suggest running a sock or floss to catch them as they swim/float at night. From what ive read there’s so many different breads of dinosaurs the effective treatments vary.

I cant even count how many frags i lost before realizing what i was dealing with. My newbie reaction was water changes which was oh so wrong.

I have a sock in the sump at all times. Gets changed every other day, or every three if I forget... Good thing 90% of my overflow goes thru the sock snd not the other way around.

Water changes are the devil with dinos... can't remember why tho.

Definitely Dino’s. Sorry turtle.

Hey, we know what we are fighting. That's most of the battle right there.

I can't decide if I want to wait until the lights come on and see how bad it is... or just cover the tank and unplug the lights now. Hmm, gotta find something big enough to cover the tank with. One black trash bag fit over the nano petty well, but the Deep Blue is a little bigger than the nano. I think I have a large blanket I'm not using that might work.

 

[Scurvy]

Honestly i never even bother covering the tank. Just killing the lights always worked well enough for me though i tend to live in the dark

Id probably only cover it if it gets a lot ambient light or was right next to a window.

Run your water tests and see where things stand from there.

 

[SashimiTurtle]

Honestly i never even bother covering the tank. Just killing the lights always worked well enough for me though i tend to live in the dark

Id probably only cover it if it gets a lot ambient light or was right next to a window.

Run your water tests and see where things stand from there.

My house = a cave... it stays pretty dark in my living room and I'll close the blinds in the dining room. Should be sufficiently dark. The fish will enjoy being fed and not neglected for 3 days also.

If my nutrients are bottomed out with only a skimmer for filtration, I'll be the envy of the forums. At last this thread...

I've been feeding my normal amount for the fish, and once a week I feed 5ml oysterfeast and 2ml each of the red sea energy, split on different days. I doubt I'm at 0, but then again, I don't see much any algae growth. Just dynos.

 

[siggy]

Sounds like that new live rock is a real Nitro Machine

 

[sfin52]

For socks to work they need to be able to filter 10 micron. A diatom filter will work to. There are large cell amph dino that won’t go into the water colum. At night they do into the sandbed. Mcarrol has a great sticky thread in algea and other nuisance algea forum. Read first page and go from there.
Blow rock off every day and the socks should capture them. Good luck they are beatable and keep No3 5-10 ppm and po4 .1

 

[SashimiTurtle]

Ummm, I can't remember what my socks are... wait, I have some in the package still. Hang on.

Hmm, 200 micron. That's a little ways from 10. Oh well, black out and H2O2 worked before. Gonna try it again. Testing water here in a minute.

Closed all the blinds off, camera pics up a little bit of extra light but it's pretty dark.

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[Scurvy]

They may not be 10 micron now but after a day or two in use on the tank they'll probably be closer to 10 than 200 anyway. I think you'll catch more than you expect.

 

[SashimiTurtle]

They may not be 10 micron now but after a day or two in use on the tank they'll probably be closer to 10 than 200 anyway. I think you'll catch more than you expect.

I'll leave then in until I see them getting clogged. Fully aware of the increased filtering capabilities of a partially clogged filter. We've got these "Fuller's earth" filters on a hydraulic oil pump at work. They have to be caked for 2 hours with low pressure oil flow before being put in service. I'm certain caking my filter socks with fire proof hydraulic oil isn't reef safe tho...

 

[Scurvy]

No definitely not reef safe! Just feed some reef roids with the return running and it'll clog that sock no time!

 

[najer]

You know I have said it before, dude, serious, take a breath again, loads of great advise above!
Get us a set of results and what "measures" you are running.
With the rock swap you are basically running a new tank.
What is your flow like, the monti will hate that crap on it!
We might be a bunch of rum drinking drunkards but we are rum drinking drunkards that do marines and would like to help.
Slowly!

 

[SashimiTurtle]

No definitely not reef safe! Just feed some reef roids with the return running and it'll clog that sock no time!

I'm out of the little sample I had. I need to pick up a jar. That stuff is great for feeding LPS.

 

[SashimiTurtle]

You know I have said it before, dude, serious, take a breath again, loads of great advise above!
Get us a set of results and what "measures" you are running.
With the rock swap you are basically running a new tank.
What is your flow like, the monti will hate that crap on it!
We might be a bunch of rum drinking drunkards but we are rum drinking drunkards that do marines and would like to help.
Slowly!

Haha I've taken your advice and just let the tank be and look where it got me. Dinosaurs, it's like Jurassic park all over in my tank... hahaha.

Yea I know it's like a new tank. Not completely new, as I have some marine pure for bio and the rocks came out of an established tank, but yea nused... I was prepaired for diatoms and minor nuisance algaes... but dinos? Man, those suck. We're gonna beat them and get this thing back on the path we were headed on last week.

 

[SashimiTurtle]

@Slicktop, great to meet you finally. Thanks again for the basketball size chunk of chaeto.

I filled my reactor up about halfway, to leave some room for growth.

That didn't put a dent in the amount you gave me... soooo...

Hahaha, yea... I stuck the rest in my QT tank.

 

[SashimiTurtle]

So, NO3 is way off the low range scale. Well over 4ppm. PO4 was around 0.04ppm. That is far from bottomed out...

Testing everything else in just a minute.