Using API General Cure with CP

[jasonrusso]

I recently had a velvet outbreak (took out 4 of my 7 fish) and I have my remaining fish in two QT tanks. I'm treating with CP, but I read Prazi may deplete oxygen. I have some API General Cure as well and I am considering dosing that as to cover all my bases.

That being said, my fish have been in QT since 4/15 (leaving the DT fallow) and show no signs of flukes. Wouldn't I be seeing some symptoms by this point? I retreated both tanks with CP after the velvet broke out again in one of them. Also, one is a dwarf moray eel. I'm not sure if eels are less prone to flukes.

 

[aykwm]

One of the main ingredients of API cure is prazaiquantel which is the same as prazipro, the other ingredient is metronidazole which is similar to metroplex. Oxygen depletion won't be an issue if you provide enough aeration in the tank by using air stone. If you see no signs of flukes then you don't need to treat for it. Try to do a FW dip on one of the fish to ensure there is no fluke.

 

[jasonrusso]

Would you consider 2 airstones w/ a HOB filter in a 55g and an airstone w/ a HOB filter in a 20g adequate aeration for a prazi/CP combination?

Everyone on here has me so paranoid now. There is so much talk about "You don't always see symptoms even if the fish has it." But then the same people say not to over medicate??? It's hard to see if my eel has anything because all I see is his head sticking out of a pipe. Is a FW dip the only way other than observing behavior?

 

[aykwm]

It depends on the disease. Flukes can be easily tested using FW dip, if you did it and saw flukes then you need to treat it, if you didnt see it and saw no symptoms of flukes then fishbdont have it. Another disease might be ich, where fish develop immunity, so you wont see ich on them, but it is still present, and any case of stress will cause them to show again.

 

[jasonrusso]

I would think that in 2 months I would have seen something or my fish would be dead, because I never treated them for flukes.

 

[aykwm]

It depends on many factors, but mostly likely you are correct. Although in some situations fish can be carriers without being negatively effected, thats why FW will give you a definite answer. But if all fish show no signs then probably its not there.

 

[jasonrusso]

I might treat my eel (he's alone in the tank). He shakes his head alot, but that is what my last eel did as well. Do you think I have enough aeration?

Would you consider 2 airstones w/ a HOB filter in a 55g and an airstone w/ a HOB filter in a 20g adequate aeration for a prazi/CP combination?

 

[dh350twin]

I might treat my eel (he's alone in the tank). He shakes his head alot, but that is what my last eel did as well. Do you think I have enough aeration?

I think you have enough especially if the qt tank water level is low enough that the HOB is creating an aeration on the top of the water column. Flukes are tricky. No real signs until it's almost to late. FW dip will tell you. Be careful to match temp and ph before dipping. You will see them within 2 min

 

[Maritimer]

I might treat my eel (he's alone in the tank). He shakes his head alot, but that is what my last eel did as well. Do you think I have enough aeration?

I've never kept an eel, but I'm given to understand that they often shake their heads when they are sniffing around for something yummy ... head-shaking in eels _may_ not mean the same thing as it would in, say, angelfish.

~Bruce

 

[melypr1985]

If you are using CP then I'd prefer if you used the General Cure instead of the liquid Prazipro since the liquid has had poor reactions with CP in the past.

 

[jasonrusso]

If you are using CP then I'd prefer if you used the General Cure instead of the liquid Prazipro since the liquid has had poor reactions with CP in the past.

I posted this in the other forum earlier.


Does this sound like a good plan for QT'ing new arrivals (prophylacticly treating, no active infections)?

1.) Receive and acclimate the fish to the non-medicated QT
2.) Wait a few days until the fish starts eating
3.) Dose CP at 40mg/gal
4.) After 18-20 days, add a first dose of API GC
5.) 5 days later, add another dose
6.) After 28-30 days (if all seems well) remove the healthy disease fish into the DT

This way adding carbon and water changes at the end will be avoided as the QT should be drained after anyway. It also lessens the time an active fish (tang, etc) will be exposed to the stress of being in a too small QT (unless someone is using a 6 foot QT).

Obviously, this is all assuming that the fish is acting healthy and eating normally at the end of the treatment.

 

[melypr1985]

I posted this in the other forum earlier.

answered in the other thread