Using Kick ick and Ruby Rally Pro at the same time ?

[Fishguy1079]

Hi so I have a little ick in my reef tank and while I've been putting Metro(plus Focus) in there food for about a week and a half and they still have it. So I was considering using Kick Ick too and it says you can use it with Ruby Rally Pro. Since I have both I was thinking about using them both, there's no instructions for using using both on the bottle. Has anyone used both at the same time ? Do I just follow the instruction of each and not worry about? Can you add the meds at the same time ? Also anybody know the shelf life of Kick Ick? I kind of forgot I had to be honest, it's unopened but probably had it a couple of years.
Thanks!

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

Metro + Focus does NOT work for ich. I worked for a public aquarium back in the 1980's and we experimented with that for quite some time and gave it up because it never worked. You need to dose the metro really high to get enough in the bloodstream in order to kill the ich trophonts, but metro is so bitter, that before you get close to the needed dose, the fish refuse to feed on it.

If it is dosed correctly, it does have some benefit for internal flagellate protozoans. The dose for that is 1% metro by weight in food.

Kick Ick doesn't have much of a track record in curing moderate to advanced cases of ich. Rally Pro has some benefit against Brooklynella.

Are you confident with your diagnosis? How many spots do the fish have (roughly). If you post a video, I can better tell the level of infection.

If you're only seeing a few spots, you can try "ich management":

"Ich Management"

Because this topic continues to come up, I wanted to create a sticky thread so that it is more easily referenced. Please understand that I am NOT presenting this as an optimum method for controlling marine ich, just putting it out there for people who want to try it. Also, do not pick and...

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Jay

 

[vetteguy53081]

Hi so I have a little ick in my reef tank and while I've been putting Metro(plus Focus) in there food for about a week and a half and they still have it. So I was considering using Kick Ick too and it says you can use it with Ruby Rally Pro. Since I have both I was thinking about using them both, there's no instructions for using using both on the bottle. Has anyone used both at the same time ? Do I just follow the instruction of each and not worry about? Can you add the meds at the same time ? Also anybody know the shelf life of Kick Ick? I kind of forgot I had to be honest, it's unopened but probably had it a couple of years.
Thanks!

Metro won’t do much, needs to be used precisely and makes food taste bitter
Ruby will not treat ich and most effective is to quarantine and treat ich with coppersafe at 2.25
Much ich is very ineffective and regarded as a tonic opposed to ich treatment

 

[MnFish1]

Metro won’t do much, needs to be used precisely and makes food taste bitter
Ruby will not treat ich and most effective is to quarantine and treat ich with coppersafe at 2.25
Much ich is very ineffective and regarded as a tonic opposed to ich treatment

Agree. There is no real evidence that metronidazole should be helpful in this situation.

 

[Fishguy1079]

Metro + Focus does NOT work for ich. I worked for a public aquarium back in the 1980's and we experimented with that for quite some time and gave it up because it never worked. You need to dose the metro really high to get enough in the bloodstream in order to kill the ich trophonts, but metro is so bitter, that before you get close to the needed dose, the fish refuse to feed on it.

If it is dosed correctly, it does have some benefit for internal flagellate protozoans. The dose for that is 1% metro by weight in food.

Kick Ick doesn't have much of a track record in curing moderate to advanced cases of ich. Rally Pro has some benefit against Brooklynella.

Are you confident with your diagnosis? How many spots do the fish have (roughly). If you post a video, I can better tell the level of infection.

If you're only seeing a few spots, you can try "ich management":

"Ich Management"

Because this topic continues to come up, I wanted to create a sticky thread so that it is more easily referenced. Please understand that I am NOT presenting this as an optimum method for controlling marine ich, just putting it out there for people who want to try it. Also, do not pick and...

www.reef2reef.com

Jay

Thanks Jay. And no I'm not 100% sure that it's that. So I'll send a video or pics when I get home tonight. But I think it is because I had a outbreak several months back and from every thing I've been told and read I'm always going to have Ick in the tank because it's a reef tank and you can't really kill the parasite completely. I've just been vitamin soaking there food and using metro to keep there immune systems up.

Thanks