Very high nutrients

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I've always had high to very high nutrients (salifert nitrate test colors dark pink, seachem phosphate dark blue), so this isn't really something new. A month or so ago I downsized my skimmer because the previous one wasn't working well for me. The newer, smaller one pulls a lot of dark gunk out within days. Few weeks before that I installed an algae reactor with chaeto, which is doing great. Have to empty it every week, because it simply doesn't fit any more chaeto at that point. However, it hasn't grown at all last week, still the exact same amount in there. Decided to check phosphate and nitrate levels, but they're still as high as usual.

So, the tank's a little over a year old and is a 50 gallon system. 3 Small fish and 3 slightly bigger, couple of hermits and cleaner shrimp which are fed 2 or 3 small portions a day. Doesn't seem very shocking to me, is it?

Doing monthly 20% water changes and I stir the top layer of the sandbed every week. Been doing that for a while, so I assume it's not a completely toxic swamp down there yet. Even before I started stirring the sandbed I had high nutrients. My corals are looking great though, both LPS and SPS. For some reason I see quite some growth in the SPS, just not the LPS though. The only algae I have is a thin green/brown film on the glass which I remove every week. I did get loads of red cyano in my sump when I still had a refugium. Replaced the refugium with a reactor and the cyano has since disappeared. I also run activated carbon 24/7.

Any ideas what's causing this? I switched from colombo to salifert/seachem test kits a few months back because I didn't trust the colombo ones. Same results though.
 
All the previous chaeto growth you had might have depleted some other trace nutrient that it needs, like iron or manganese. It's possible that your regular water changes are not making up for that, depending on what salt you use.
 
All the previous chaeto growth you had might have depleted some other trace nutrient that it needs, like iron or manganese. It's possible that your regular water changes are not making up for that, depending on what salt you use.
Hmmm, makes sense I guess. Had some trouble with my dosing pump as well, so I guess that might be a cause as well.
 
The problem is more than likely your rock. Live rock (or dead rock) acts like a sponge. If you expose it to high nutrients for extended periods of time it is going to soak up those nutrients. If you lower the nutrients then the rocks will start to release the nutrients back into the system using diffusion.

You can remove the rock or continue to dilute out the nutrients that are being released until the rocks exhaust their stored nutrients. More frequent water changes might also speed up this process.

And yes your corals for the most part are going to love the elevated nutrients :)
 
The problem is more than likely your rock. Live rock (or dead rock) acts like a sponge. If you expose it to high nutrients for extended periods of time it is going to soak up those nutrients. If you lower the nutrients then the rocks will start to release the nutrients back into the system using diffusion.

You can remove the rock or continue to dilute out the nutrients that are being released until the rocks exhaust their stored nutrients. More frequent water changes might also speed up this process.

And yes your corals for the most part are going to love the elevated nutrients :)
Thanks, that explains a lot :)
Taking out rocks isn't an option unfortunately, so I'll just have to wait it out then.
 
Ohhhh ... :)
I should have been clearer I was referring to the organics inside the rock in the anaerobic areas.

It is interesting to note that phosphates can be stored in the rocks, I was unaware of that.

a huge amount of phosphate bonds directly to calcium carbonate surfaces, reversibly. That’s why a 100% water change does not drop phosphate by 100%.
 
Ok that is kewl.
Is the bond ionic with the the CaCO3? Kinda like PO3CaCO3?

Yes, it forms a type of calcium phosphate ionic structure on the surface, just like GFO forms a sort of ferric phosphate and aluminum oxide materials like Phosguard form an aluminum phosphate.
 
Is it fair to assume that the more surface area the rock has, the more phosphate it can bind?
 

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