"Vibrant for Saltwater" in reef aquarium?

[Michel]

I want to try Vibrant to see if it could fix my algae problems.
But because they don't sell Vibrant here in The Netherlands I have bought a bottle off amazon from the US.
Now it arrived i see its a bottle "Vibrant for Saltwater aquariums" and not "Vibrant for reef aquariums".

Can I still use the Vibrant Saltwater in my reef aquarium, or will it be bad for my corals/anemones?

 

[Subsea]

Consider an Oxydator for your reef tank.

 

[Michel]

You mean like running a protein skimmer? (I have a protein skimmer running on the tank)

 

[Subsea]

I have been skimmerless for 30 yrs and choose not to remove skimmate as I feel it is nutrients for the tank. Gas exchange is excellent with protein skimmer, however, Oxydator adds reactive H202 which is oxygen on steroids. Instead of ozone which is tooo reactive.

 

[Dbichler]

I use the saltwater not reef but I only have soft corals no Ill effects other than does kill coralline algae I dose 20 mls per week on my 210. Start with a half dose and increase if no issues.

 

[Cory]

Yes you can use either reef version or saltwater it doesn't matter.

 

[Michel]

Thank you all for the replies, in that case I will just use it.

 

[Cory]

I was told the saltwater version is just stronger than the reef due to high fish loads in fish only tanks

 

[monkeyCmonkeyDo]

I would do wcs and try carbon or bio pellets even 1st before a bottle of miracle.
D

 

[Michel]

I was told the saltwater version is just stronger than the reef due to high fish loads in fish only tanks

yeah after some more reading, I also read that its probably just a higher concentration. So maybe its best if I just dose 50-75% of the dosage listed on the bottle.

I would do wcs and try carbon or bio pellets even 1st before a bottle of miracle.
D

In this tank im already battling algae/dinos/cyano for months. I've tried a lot of things but algae and cyano keeps comming back in no time. Thats why I want to try Vibrant.

 

[Cory]

yeah after some more reading, I also read that its probably just a higher concentration. So maybe its best if I just dose 50-75% of the dosage listed on the bottle.


In this tank im already battling algae/dinos/cyano for months. I've tried a lot of things but algae and cyano keeps comming back in no time. Thats why I want to try Vibrant.

Iirc it was the owner that said that. If youve got dinos id get a uv sterilizer. Worked for me.

 

[Spare time]

I would do wcs and try carbon or bio pellets even 1st before a bottle of miracle.
D

Vibrant is "basically" dosing bacteria that you would grow on biopellets.

 

[Spare time]

yeah after some more reading, I also read that its probably just a higher concentration. So maybe its best if I just dose 50-75% of the dosage listed on the bottle.


In this tank im already battling algae/dinos/cyano for months. I've tried a lot of things but algae and cyano keeps comming back in no time. Thats why I want to try Vibrant.

Out of curiosity, what are you nitrates levels?

 

[monkeyCmonkeyDo]

Ya well the reactor runs all the time and i dont go dosing caps full of this or that. Lol.
Everyone runs their reefs diffrent.
D

 

[Michel]

Iirc it was the owner that said that. If youve got dinos id get a uv sterilizer. Worked for me.

I have an UV sterilizer on the tank. At this moment I dont have dinos, I think the UV did a good job on that part, but doesnt help with the other algae problems.

Out of curiosity, what are you nitrates levels?

When testing the parameters I read 0 nitrates and 0 phosphates, but thats probably because the algae is taking it.

Ya well the reactor runs all the time and i dont go dosing caps full of this or that. Lol.
Everyone runs their reefs diffrent.
D

Its not only running them different, its also having bad luck I gues...

I have 2 (separate) reef aquariums and I both run them the same. One of them is really good looking, no algae and fully stocked with good looking/growing corals.

And the second tank that I treat the same and also has the same water paramater is full covered in algae and I cant get it clean.

I think there is something wrong with the rocks or something, Maybe the rocks are having a high phosphates in them or something, I dont know....

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

I have been skimmerless for 30 yrs and choose not to remove skimmate as I feel it is nutrients for the tank. Gas exchange is excellent with protein skimmer, however, Oxydator adds reactive H202 which is oxygen on steroids. Instead of ozone which is tooo reactive.

Have you ever measured to see if it maintains oxygen saturation?

Do you monitor pH? CO2 exchange is generally a plus with a skimmer.

 

[piranhaman00]

Tin foil hat***

Vibrant is actually algaecide and can cause problems in reef tanks, especially SPS. Use with caution

Ooops

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

Vibrant is "basically" dosing bacteria that you would grow on biopellets.

Really? I find that highly unlikely. Why do you think that is true?

Biopellets are metabolized by a highly specialized type of bacteria. Most bacteria cannot consume them.

If you dosed bacteria that are able to consume polyhydroxybutyrate (biopellets), why would that have the anti algae effects that vibrant claims?

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

Tin foil hat***

Vibrant is actually algaecide and can cause problems in reef tanks, especially SPS. Use with caution

Ooops

Still waiting for evidence that it is not a type of bacteria that the manufacturer claims.

 

[piranhaman00]

Still waiting for evidence that it is not a type of bacteria that the manufacturer claims.

The tin foil hat was meant to be that I am playing devils advocate or bizarre theory

1. 99% bacteria would be sludge
2. Documented killing of certain fish.
3. I found a forum where someone ran it through a MS or HMNR machine and found interesting data...but of course it is gone...

I have no real proof but I am suspicious of proprietary ingredients in any product that is.

Use of Vibrant

Was curious how many people use Vibrant in their tank. I was thinking about using it and wanted to know some pros and cons you have experienced with it.

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