Want to add more fish

[geko522]

Hello! Currently I have a 120g tank that I have tiny frag lps coral in with these fish

Lawnmower Blenny
Sailfish Tang
Naso Tang
Foxface Rabbitfish
Clownfish
Banggai cardinalfish
2- blue damsels
2 - fire fish.
Cleaner shrimp

What other fish can I add to my aquarium that would be reef friendly?

Thank you for any help, appreciate your time.

 

[Sophie"s mom]

I have a coral beauty angelfish in my tank and it does not mess with corals at all. From what I understand as long as you keep them well fed, they are fine for reefs. Probably some butterflies you can look at.

 

[geko522]

I have a coral beauty angelfish in my tank and it does not mess with corals at all. From what I understand as long as you keep them well fed, they are fine for reefs. Probably some butterflies you can look at.

Thanks, I'll look into them!

 

[Oldreefer44]

Hello! Currently I have a 120g tank that I have tiny frag lps coral in with these fish

Lawnmower Blenny
Sailfish Tang
Naso Tang
Foxface Rabbitfish
Clownfish
Banggai cardinalfish
2- blue damsels
2 - fire fish.
Cleaner shrimp

What other fish can I add to my aquarium that would be reef friendly?

Thank you for any help, appreciate your time.

Suggest going to online sites and look up reef safe fish. IMO, the only thing that would be risky would be another Tang due to potential aggression from one or both of the ones you already have.

 

[Doctorgori]

I got a quad of royal grammas that display well, very well …
It took about 5 months but once they settled in I am very pleased with the high visibility of the group

…added: chalk bass are kinda easy to get a decent grouping going also

 

[Tamberav]

Seems like you need a wrasse, they can help eat pests and are some of the most beautiful fish.

Maybe a Melanurus Wrasse as long as you have a sand bed. Pretty easy keeper and stunning. A Yellow Wrasse would be another one.

 

[landlubber]

I have a coral beauty angelfish in my tank and it does not mess with corals at all. From what I understand as long as you keep them well fed, they are fine for reefs. Probably some butterflies you can look at.

like a few other fish (sixline wrasse , coral beauty/flame angels) whether or not they're "reef safe" isn't so much a matter of keeping them fed to curb their undesirable habits but more so a fish to fish personality scenario.
It works and is never an issue for some but after losing $600+ of lps to a bored fish those are odds i personally won't be risking again.

 

[Sophie"s mom]

like a few other fish (sixline wrasse , coral beauty/flame angels) whether or not they're "reef safe" isn't so much a matter of keeping them fed to curb their undesirable habits but more so a fish to fish personality scenario.
It works and is never an issue for some but after losing $600+ of lps to a bored fish those are odds i personally won't be risking again.

Yep, I get it. We can each only go on our experience. I have had a flame angel in the past that did just fine, and I have a coral beauty now. I think it is also a matter of fish personality. Some are sweethearts, and another of the same species can be real jerks.

 

[littlefoxx]

The sailfin tang will reach the size of a dinner plate and the naso 12 inches long, and the fox face is also a big fish (not as big as those two but still big in its own right) those are three very big fish for a 120 gallon. What sizes are they now? Any plans for an upgrade? That would be the biggest factor adding more fish in your tank in my opinion

 

[landlubber]

The sailfin tang will reach the size of a dinner plate and the naso 12 inches long, and the fox face is also a big fish (not as big as those two but still big in its own right) those are three very big fish for a 120 gallon. What sizes are they now? Any plans for an upgrade? That would be the biggest factor adding more fish in your tank in my opinion

I can only speak from personal experience with a Naso (i've never had a sailfin) and while what you say is true, it sure doesn't happen immediately.
i'm in year 7 with my Naso and after starting as a 2" minnow it's now a 6" fish.
I do have a donor family arranged for it should it get too squeezed looking but truthfully... I don't expect it to happen.
Naso's are about as slow paced as Tangs come so they're not as concerned about it dashing and lacking swimming space like something like an Achilles.

 

[littlefoxx]

I can only speak from personal experience with a Naso (i've never had a sailfin) and while what you say is true, it sure doesn't happen immediately.
i'm in year 7 with my Naso and after starting as a 2" minnow it's now a 6" fish.
I do have a donor family arranged for it should it get too squeezed looking but truthfully... I don't expect it to happen.
Naso's are about as slow paced as Tangs come so they're not as concerned about it dashing and lacking swimming space like something like an Achilles.

Thats crazy. I got mine 8 or so months ago under an inch and shes now 6 inches!

 

[geko522]

The sailfin tang will reach the size of a dinner plate and the naso 12 inches long, and the fox face is also a big fish (not as big as those two but still big in its own right) those are three very big fish for a 120 gallon. What sizes are they now? Any plans for an upgrade? That would be the biggest factor adding more fish in your tank in my opinion

I knew someone would come along and start with the Tang talk. I appreciate your concern and all, but this isn't helpful to me with what other fish to add. Let me worry about the tangs when it gets to that point. Thank you....

 

[littlefoxx]

I knew someone would come along and start with the Tang talk. I appreciate your concern and all, but this isn't helpful to me with what other fish to add. Let me worry about the tangs when it gets to that point. Thank you....

Uh okay? Well its a valid point. You being defensive about it tells me everything I need to know. When people ask questions about stuff pertaining to size its because Im trying to figure out how much room you had. Them being babies and small is one thing, them being huge and full grown is another when it comes to adding fish. “Not helpful” because I brought attention to an issue I saw and asked questions to clarify and learn more about your tank to HELP you?? Wow. Did I say get those fish the heck out of there? No. Just asked simple questions about them because some people dont actually know how big they get which is why I covered it just to be safe. Helpful is telling you the truth not what you want to hear. But I guess since you wanna come at me sideways about me trying to help Im done. Good luck.

 

[landlubber]

Uh okay? Well its a valid point. You being defensive about it tells me everything I need to know. When people ask questions about stuff pertaining to size its because Im trying to figure out how much room you had. Them being babies and small is one thing, them being huge and full grown is another when it comes to adding fish. “Not helpful” because I brought attention to an issue I saw and asked questions to clarify and learn more about your tank to HELP you?? Wow. Did I say get those fish the heck out of there? No. Just asked simple questions about them because some people dont actually know how big they get which is why I covered it just to be safe. Helpful is telling you the truth not what you want to hear. But I guess since you wanna come at me sideways about me trying to help Im done. Good luck.

while i don't disagree with your reasoning and you're making good points, one major one is missing, hobbyists generally do have an avenue to trade off fish.
The turnover in fishkeeping is probably north of 95% where people enter the hobby and within a year are selling off everything. We all routinely see perfectly running tanks sold due to lack of success, moving, financial reasons or otherwise.
While perhaps not as ideal as a full term life in a loving home, rehoming a healthy fish is a very common practice.

 

[littlefoxx]

while i don't disagree with your reasoning and you're making good points, one major one is missing, hobbyists generally do have an avenue to trade off fish.
The turnover in fishkeeping is probably north of 95% where people enter the hobby and within a year are selling off everything. We all routinely see perfectly running tanks sold due to lack of success, moving, financial reasons or otherwise.
While perhaps not as ideal as a full term life in a loving home, rehoming a healthy fish is a very common practice.

No for sure 100% which is why I was asking questions in the first place to better understand the tank and plans and stuff like that to better advise but apparently that wasnt being “helpful”. But that would have been my next question because that does affect what to add and when to add it for the tank size they have. But getting offended when asking valid questions so I could better help is what put me off. But I agree 100% with you on the re-homing aspect.

 

[BeanAnimal]

I knew someone would come along and start with the Tang talk. I appreciate your concern and all, but this isn't helpful to me with what other fish to add. Let me worry about the tangs when it gets to that point. Thank you....

Yes, by all means, let's ignore any information that may be contrary to what you want and just focus on what makes you happy.

My question is simple. Why ask for opinion at all if you only want to hear what you want to hear and are going to tune out everything else and do what you want anyway?

 

[BeanAnimal]

while i don't disagree with your reasoning and you're making good points, one major one is missing, hobbyists generally do have an avenue to trade off fish.
The turnover in fishkeeping is probably north of 95% where people enter the hobby and within a year are selling off everything. We all routinely see perfectly running tanks sold due to lack of success, moving, financial reasons or otherwise.
While perhaps not as ideal as a full term life in a loving home, rehoming a healthy fish is a very common practice.

I am not sure how this equates. Most people typically don't "rehome" fish when they outgrow their tanks, as most people don't know (or care) in the first place.

Rehoming due to "failure" is a different story. In ether case, care to guess how many of the new "homes" are also undersized?

Moving a fish is stressful. I would suggest the best course of action would be to buy appropriate fish to begin with instead of buying fish that will certainly outgrow the system they are placed in.

This topic brings about extremes on both sides, but the "I know the guidelines, but I am different" dithering is a recurring theme.

 

[littlefoxx]

I am not sure how this equates. Most people typically don't "rehome" fish when they outgrow their tanks, as most people don't know (or care) in the first place.

Rehoming due to "failure" is a different story. In ether case, care to guess how many of the new "homes" are also undersized?

Moving a fish is stressful. I would suggest the best course of action would be to buy appropriate fish to begin with instead of buying fish that will certainly outgrow the system they are placed in.

This topic brings about extremes on both sides, but the "I know the guidelines, but I am different" dithering is a recurring theme.

I also 100% agree with this as well, and thats what I try to do with my fish personally (only re homing if theres an issue in the tank and thats the best option for all my fish including the one I re home). But I would rather someone re home a big fish then let it suffer in a tank too small for it just cause thats the fish they want and dont care if that tank fits it or not which Ive seen a ton of recently. Thanks Bean always appreciate you

 

[landlubber]

I am not sure how this equates. Most people typically don't "rehome" fish when they outgrow their tanks, as most people don't know (or care) in the first place.

Rehoming due to "failure" is a different story. In ether case, care to guess how many of the new "homes" are also undersized?

Moving a fish is stressful. I would suggest the best course of action would be to buy appropriate fish to begin with instead of buying fish that will certainly outgrow the system they are placed in.

This topic brings about extremes on both sides, but the "I know the guidelines, but I am different" dithering is a recurring theme.

I also 100% agree with this as well, and thats what I try to do with my fish personally (only re homing if theres an issue in the tank and thats the best option for all my fish including the one I re home). But I would rather someone re home a big fish then let it suffer in a tank too small for it just cause thats the fish they want and dont care if that tank fits it or not which Ive seen a ton of recently. Thanks Bean always appreciate you

I disagree. As i mentioned, its not an "ideal" situation but lets be honest about our hobby for a second here... if a person loses their 8" Naso tang in an established tank that has been in operation for 10 years they have a far better chance at getting a mature rehomed fish from another hobbyist than they do of getting one from the LFS.
As for fish stress, keeping pets is always about advocating for the pet yet this website alone has dozens of examples daily of fish being needlessly subjected to less than ideal situations from the DIY'er that never changes their water, to introducing incompatible fish to reinvent the wheel.
The tang police wouldn't exist at all if there weren't hundreds here that absolutely need that Blue Tang they saw on Finding Nemo and want it in their 40 gallon breeder.
Thanks for your input

 

[BeanAnimal]

Feels like a lot of rationalization to not condemn something or take a stand, but I am not here to change your mind. I simply offered my opinion on the matter.

I do think that blaming a movie to excuse or explain people being irresponsible is silly. But even if true, when they ask "is this ok" people shouldn't dither and say "well sure, do what makes you happy" or worse condone the "well I don't want to hear from the Tang Police, I am different and my tank is special and it doesn't apply".

FWIW - I have not done a water change in... wow, I guess we are 7 or so years now