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Wanted: Coralline Algae
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deerhunter06
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no offense but that's pretty much a waste of money.... it just adding calcium. all you need is some shavings of coralline introduced and u r good to go.
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macon77
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Hello,
Thank you for the reply. I VERY MUCH appreciate the offer to assist!
This thread has brought up some interesting considerations. Your willingness and offer bring up yet another. In reading some of your previous posts on R2R, you note that you have a spotted rabbit in your system (also pictured in your avatar). It is a beautiful fish. You also note that he/she is an excellent member of your cleanup crew. I have not had the pleasure of caring for one, but I have kept the more common foxfaces, in the past. I agree that these are amazing creatures, and will frequently devour some of the "difficult-to-contend-with" algae species.
The question that arises relates to a comment you posted about the fish eagerly consuming nuisance algae species that you previously had issues with. The question is, "What would happen in your system, if you removed that fish from it?"
I have the belief that some algae species are unavoidable. However, some species would need to be introduced into a system for them to be present. Given that you may have introduced some of the avoidable species of algae into your system in the past, is it possible that the fish you care for has COMPLETELY ERADICATED those species?
I do not claim to have an answer to this question. I have some thoughts, but would love to hear some others. My suspicion is that the answer to this question involves A) algae life cycles, B) tank conditions, C) time, and D) access. I suspect that, under ideal conditions, and given enough time, an herbivore that will consume an algae in question could COMPLETELY ERADICATE that species from a system.
Thoughts?
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macon77
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Hello,
Thank you for the reply.
I agree with deerhunter, here. I have used this product, in the past. Although it may have promoted coralline algae growth, I did not find it to be any more effective than less expensive products.
The other thing that is important to note, here, is that this product does not contain coralline algae spores. As such, a source of the spores would still be required in order to have them be present in a system.
With respect to propagating coralline algae, once present in a system, there is one product that I did find to be interesting. It was a Seachem product which contained calcium gluconate. At that time (I do not know if this is still the case.), Seachem offered two different liquid calcium supplements. One of them contained calcium gluconate, while the other contained calcium chloride. It may have been my imagination, but, I did get the sense that the gluconate form was more effective in the propagation of coralline algae. It might be entertaining to conduct further experiments, with respect to this.
chefjpaul
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glb
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I've found that as long as you have a small bit of coralline in your system, it will grow, although maybe not as fast as you'd like. For what it's worth, I found my coralline grew faster under CF bulbs. I got LEDs two years ago and last year had a tank crash due to AC dying and tank being 92 degrees for three days (AC always goes kaput on a holiday weekend!). After I rehabbed the tank, I've noticed that the coralline is growing more slowly under the LEDs. I don't know if this is only my experience but thought I'd share. As far as other algaes, I've found that keeping nutrients low (nitrates and phosphates) is key. Good luck!
deerhunter06
Valuable Member
I looked around and I have 3 or 4 shells covered in nice dark red coralline and bright pink......if youd like just pm me and address and they are yours I can also show you a pic if you'd like.
As far as the algae question....I can tell you this I have not seen a return in the bubble algae, but that's not saying it won't come back. that's a good question. I'd like to think it's gone for good [emoji2]
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macon77
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Thank you for posting. This is an interesting observation.
I do not suspect that I will ever be able to add any experience, here. Before I took a break from the hobby, I always ran metal halide or t5 lighting. I very much prefer metal halide, just for the "shimmer." I did run t5s on some propagation systems, though. When I decided to reenter the hobby, I did purchase some Kessil units. I did not care for the look of the leds. I sold them, and purchased a Hamilton metal halide/t5 system for my display tank. I built a small canopy and retrofitted a metal halide system for my quarantine tank. I have no regrets.
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macon77
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I looked around and I have 3 or 4 shells covered in nice dark red coralline and bright pink......if youd like just pm me and address and they are yours I can also show you a pic if you'd like.
As far as the algae question....I can tell you this I have not seen a return in the bubble algae, but that's not saying it won't come back. that's a good question. I'd like to think it's gone for good
You are a hero! If it is not too much of an inconvenience, I will take the shells. No pictures are required. Your experience speaks for itself. I will forward my mailing address via private message. You can forward your Paypal information, so that I can compensate you.
I will fire up the observation tank this evening, in preparation. If it is useful to anyone besides myself, I can provide updates concerning the process. There may be useful information gleaned concerning the presence/absence of your rabbit. If things turn out unfavorably, I could proceed by employing the approach that chefjpaul mentioned.
Thank you, again. I very much appreciate it!!!
bobbychullo
Community Member
I've never had to buy anything other than the live rock i put in my tank. The last live rock I purchased was Real Reef, i'm sure it may have picked some up in the live rock bin. Buy a snail from vivid aquariums lol, its shell will have some on it.
keep your tank balanced and your parameters steady and you can have it growing in your tank in a month... you don't need to add anything.
Reefing4eva
Active Member
I can easily scape off the coralline algae in my refugium..I seeded more than a few dozen of local members tanks with it and it definitely works more efficiently than waiting for it to naturally grow
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macon77
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Hello,
Thank you for the offer. I really do appreciate it. However, I have acquired some coralline algae seed.
To all who have posted in this thread, I appreciate your time, thoughts, and consideration.
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macon77
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All,
As it concerns my motivation for having posted this thread, I would like to personally acknowledge the consideration and efforts of @deerhunter06 . He has gone above-and-beyond, in an effort to assist me. He sent a few coralline-encrusted shells, in very short order. What is more, is that he would not accept any financial compensation whatsoever. I am amazed by his generosity.
The least I can do is to post a public "Thank you!!!"
There is something of an experiment that I am conducting with the shells. If anyone is interested in following along,
I have started a build thread. It has been posted in the "Member Tanks" section of the site, and is entitled "In Pursuit of a Clownfish Eden." I will be documenting the results of the "experiment" in that thread.
Thank you, again, Mr. deerhunter!!!
As it concerns my motivation for having posted this thread, I would like to personally acknowledge the consideration and efforts of @deerhunter06 . He has gone above-and-beyond, in an effort to assist me. He sent a few coralline-encrusted shells, in very short order. What is more, is that he would not accept any financial compensation whatsoever. I am amazed by his generosity.
The least I can do is to post a public "Thank you!!!"
There is something of an experiment that I am conducting with the shells. If anyone is interested in following along,
I have started a build thread. It has been posted in the "Member Tanks" section of the site, and is entitled "In Pursuit of a Clownfish Eden." I will be documenting the results of the "experiment" in that thread.
Thank you, again, Mr. deerhunter!!!
