Warning: Use Vibrant at your own risk

[a.t.t.r]

https://www.intertek.com/analysis/nmr/solution-state/ looks like intertek can do it but I am not sure what the cost would be.

 

[62518161]

 

[nereefpat]

Greg that came on Terece’s video said, that would be a nutty way to go to make an algaecide.

Right. You can genetically engineer bacteria to make various chemicals, but it wouldn't make sense in this case.

My larger point was that UWC is on record admitting that there isn't bacteria in it.

 

[LRT]

 

[GARRIGA]

This thread reminds me of when Coca Cola changed its formula.

 

[reefiniteasy]

Can you do me a favor? Please go post this in ever hitchhiker ID thread, lighting thread, and just about every other thread on the forum. I don’t get it. Isn’t a forum meant for discussion. Please click the unwatch button above.

 

[JimWelsh]

Greg that came on Terece’s video said, that would be a nutty way to go to make an algaecide.

That must be Greg Biggerman you're referring to.

 

[LRT]

My bad all I liked the lighten up button. Pretty sure we know where this is headed just waiting for it to get there. Something tells me there's alot of 3rd party testing on the way already though.

 

[rtparty]

You'll be BACH

 

[rtparty]

I told the horse to come with me if it wanted to live

 

[62518161]

 

[rtparty]

Do you think there is a reason to terminate this thread?

 

[rtparty]

I can keep going until the Rise of the Machines or Judgement Day. Whichever Salvation comes first

 

[Sean Clark]

I can keep going until the Rise of the Machines or Judgement Day. Whichever Salvation comes first

Seams like that may Genisys into some kind of Dark Fate.

 

[workhz]

True on Amazon does not mean by Amazon. I did not say by Amazon. The link for me goes to this: ships from and sold by Amazon. Not sure why it would be different for you.

No clue. I’m sure it’s some sort of Amazon algorithm that decided they’d make an extra 1/342747373th of a cent if they route the order one way vs the other.

 

[Sean Clark]

No clue. I’m sure it’s some sort of Amazon algorithm that decided they’d make an extra 1/342747373th of a cent if they route the order one way vs the other.

I just find it amusing that it is all of the sudden 29% off on Amazon only. At least from what I have seen.

Someone else gets the credit for finding it. I just looked it up after they mentioned it.

 

[WVNed]

I found this kind of interesting

Vibrant is being sold by Fish Street.

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Maybe it's made in a warehouse in Hong Kong

 

[jcolliii]

This does not compute. 95% is a percentage of a total. When applied to a liquid, it must mean either volume or mass. If they intended to convey something else (what I can't even guess) they didn't do it. Let's not cut breaks where none are deserved.

And since they separately listed the weight or volume of water, the bacteria HAS to be a sludge or dry weight.

No. It says 'blend' and that could literally be anything. So, let's say you make some stuff - you take some aquarium water, you add some food coloring, and some sugar, and let it get good and stinky over the course of a couple of weeks. Definitely could call this a 'bacterial product' - yay for you! Now, you take that stuff and fill a bottle up with it to 95% of the volume of the bottle and then fill the remainder of the bottle with 5% RODI. You still have 95% by volume of your 'bacterial blend', but *NOT* 95% bacteria by volume (or weight). The blended product you are adding does not matter - especially if you say that it is proprietary.

 

[GoVols]

That must be Greg Biggerman you're referring to.

lol
Craig

The sample was dried to get rid of as many water protons as possible. It was then redissolved in deuterium oxide, sometime called heavy water. The nuclear magnetic resonance properties of protons and deuterons are very different. This process decreases the strength of signal from water protons (typically over 100 molar concentration in aqueous samples) so the signal from the interesting protons bound to the compound of interest is more prominent. The concentration of the sample might be in the 1 to 100 millimolar range, so the water signal in an untreated sample might be 1,000 to 100,000 higher.So I’m not in the least concerned about them exchanging the sample into D2O. The quaternary ammonium polymer should redissolve easily, and if it didn’t, the lab would report that.

Thanks for chiming in, Craig.

For those who do not know him, Craig is an expert chemist who has been doing reefing chemistry articles and such for many years dating back to the old print magazines such as Aquarium Frontiers.

 

[JimWelsh]

lol
Craig

There's a running joke in certain circles in the reefing world about Craig being erroneously referred to as "Greg Biggerman". When you set me up with "Greg", I couldn't resist!