Warning: Use Vibrant at your own risk

[polyppal]

This thread was trending on Yahoo yesterday..

yahoo is still around?!?!

 

[polyppal]

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[Lost in the Sauce]

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I think this thread can actually close now ..

They aren't coming back.

@polyppal wins the internet today

 

[LRT]

I think this thread can actually close now ..

They aren't coming back.

@polyppal wins the internet today

Can't close it now. Open is the only way it'll work out.
Besides ive named an entire shroom after this thread

 

[ineption]

No disrespect to anyone, If uwc released a vibrant replacement and people purchased after reading or knowing what vibrant is then I concede and accept that there are truly dumb gullible people out there. Uwc or what ever they rebrand them selfs as is dead to me and I suspect to many others.
Happy reefing

 

[Epic Aquaculture]

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You just won the thread!!! I love this for all of us!

 

[Malcontent]

I was giving UWC some benefit of the doubt, assuming they had little to no scientific background and did not understand their product well enough to intentionally deceive their customers, but now like all of you I await their response. Claims that are made by the owner in the video are totally unsupportable.

It's starting to look like they crossed the line from deceptive advertising to criminal fraud. I didn't start following the story until the NMR but it seems like a complaint to the MN AG might be in order.

 

[LRT]

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[GillMeister]

I revisited my decision to use Vibrant in my tank. As I said before, I based that decision on a BRSTV study done by Randy at BRS. He basically repeated the mfrs claim that it was bacteria. He even went so far as to run his experiment with and without UV sterilization to see if UV reduced the effectiveness of the treatment. The study showed that UV had a visible negative effect, probably because it killed the bacteria. I purchased a bottle and dosed it with my UV off feeling confident that I wasn't adding anything harmful to my tank.

Did anyone else come away with that same impression from that video? Is it possible the study was flawed or manipulated?

 

[Cell]

I revisited my decision to use Vibrant in my tank. As I said before, I based that decision on a BRSTV study done by Randy at BRS. He basically repeated the mfrs claim that it was bacteria. He even went so far as to run his experiment with and without UV sterilization to see if UV reduced the effectiveness of the treatment. The study showed that UV had a visible negative effect, probably because it killed the bacteria. I purchased a bottle and dosed it with my UV off feeling confident that I wasn't adding anything harmful to my tank.

Did anyone else come away with that same impression from that video? Is it possible the study was flawed or manipulated?

He was testing the effectiveness of the product taking the vendors claim of ingredients as a true statement. He was not trying to verify the actual components of Vibrant. I see no wrong doing other than falling for the same ruse we all did.

 

[N.Sreefer]

If they use cultured bacteria that produce the active ingredient in algaefix the packaging would be misleading yes but not blatant fraud. I'm sure in 81 pages someone has said this but I cant read through that many pages of back and forth. Another possibility is bioaccumulation use bacteria that bioaccumulate the algaecide then sell it as a bacterial culture.

 

[rmorris_14]

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Still don't have the emojis to convey my admirations for your work here.

 

[a.t.t.r]

If they use cultured bacteria that produce the active ingredient in algaefix the packaging would be misleading yes but not blatant fraud. I'm sure in 81 pages someone has said this but I cant read through that many pages of back and forth. Another possibility is bioaccumulation use bacteria that bioaccumulate the algaecide then sell it as a bacterial culture.

Bacteria can not make this algicide. And previous testing has shown no bacteria in the bottle. So that would be a no on both accounts.

 

[polyppal]

Still don't have the emojis to convey my admirations for your work here.

Haha thanks, My gif swan song for this thread. I’m done trolling them now

 

[rmorris_14]

Haha thanks, My gif swan song for this thread. I’m done trolling them now

"I’m done trolling them now"​

PFFFT. We will see......... I have a feeling there will be more times you just cant help it. . I give it until lunch. lol

 

[GillMeister]

He was testing the effectiveness of the product taking the vendors claim of ingredients as a true statement. He was not trying to verify the actual components of Vibrant. I see no wrong doing other than falling for the same ruse we all did.

That wasn't my point. He showed UV reduced the effectiveness of Vibrant, which implies UV is killing the active ingredient. Bacteria. If there is no bacteria in the bottle then the UV effect didn't exist or it was a result of an unidentified cause.

 

[happyhourhero]

Tell me why are we so blind to see that the ones we hurt are you and me?

 

[a.t.t.r]

That wasn't my point. He showed UV reduced the effectiveness of Vibrant, which implies UV is killing the active ingredient. Bacteria. If there is no bacteria in the bottle then the UV effect didn't exist or it was a result of an unidentified cause.

Uv can also break down chemicals.
could also have killed things in the water that the algicide then binds to. Could slow the uptake of any releases phosphate by killing things in the water unrelated to vibrant.

I don’t know why ya all keep grasping for something that isn’t there. It has been undeniably established and even said by UWC (during one of they goal post shifts) that there is no living bacteria in the bottle.

 

[a.t.t.r]

Uv can also break down chemicals.
could also have killed things in the water that the algicide then binds to. Could slow the uptake of any releases phosphate by killing things in the water unrelated to vibrant.

I don’t know why ya all keep grasping for something that isn’t there. It has been undeniably established and even said by UWC (during one of they goal post shifts) that there is no living bacteria in the bottle.

@Randy Holmes-Farley how UV stable are these polyquats?

 

[rmorris_14]

Tell me why are we so blind to see that the ones we hurt are you and me?

and now I have to listen to it