Wavemaker advice

[Kilo]

I want to buy wavemaker for my new tank and below are the recommendations i got. Those who have used them can share your experience

1) Maxspect Gyre XF130

2) Jebao CP25 Crossflow

My tank is 3ft x 2ft x 2ft

Thanks in advance

 

[mcarroll]

I don't like single pump solutions for in-tank flow. Sooner or later it will be inadequate, regardless of the numbers, because all the flow comes from one location. Get at least two of whatever you end up selecting.

I'd suggest a set of Tunze pumps, but they have so many good options that I'd need more criteria from you to make more than general suggestions.

Do you have a budget? Any expectations?

For now...I like these options a lot...

Low tech:

A set of Turbelle® nanostream® 6045 pumps. ($78/ea) Four probably makes the most sense. $312, plus some bucks for two timers. Roughly, two pumps on each side (they can be placed creatively) on timers to make a tide effect....all the flow in one direction for a few hours, then all the flow in the other direction for a few hours. Corals love it!​

High tech:

A set of Turbelle® nanostream® 6095's ($233/ea) or the Turbelle® nanostream® 6055 ($184/ea), which are all controllable. Two should do it, but you may want more pumps eventually, as corals grow in and make getting good flow more difficult.​

On my 50 gallon (36x18x18") I use a pair of 6095's, plus a couple of 6045's and one 6020. This tank is packed pretty full of corals - just to give you an idea what to expect.

If it was me with your tank and I was on a budget, I think I'd go for the low tech option and possibly expand with controllable pumps later, if you want. They are not a necessity. (In fact that's how I did it. )

Other interesting pumps you might want to consider are the Turbelle® nanostream® 6040 and the 6150, aka the Turbelle® stream 3.

 

[Kilo]

I don't like single pump solutions for in-tank flow. Sooner or later it will be inadequate, regardless of the numbers, because all the flow comes from one location. Get at least two of whatever you end up selecting.

I'd suggest a set of Tunze pumps, but they have so many good options that I'd need more criteria from you to make more than general suggestions.

Do you have a budget? Any expectations?

For now...I like these options a lot...

Low tech:
A set of Turbelle® nanostream® 6045 pumps. ($78/ea) Four probably makes the most sense. $312, plus some bucks for two timers. Roughly, two pumps on each side (they can be placed creatively) on timers to make a tide effect....all the flow in one direction for a few hours, then all the flow in the other direction for a few hours. Corals love it!
High tech:
A set of Turbelle® nanostream® 6095's ($233/ea) or the Turbelle® nanostream® 6055 ($184/ea), which are all controllable. Two should do it, but you may want more pumps eventually, as corals grow in and make getting good flow more difficult.
On my 50 gallon (36x18x18") I use a pair of 6095's, plus a couple of 6045's and one 6020. This tank is packed pretty full of corals - just to give you an idea what to expect.

If it was me with your tank and I was on a budget, I think I'd go for the low tech option and possibly expand with controllable pumps later, if you want. They are not a necessity. (In fact that's how I did it. )

Other interesting pumps you might want to consider are the Turbelle® nanostream® 6040 and the 6150, aka the Turbelle® stream 3.

mcarroll,
You must really be a big fan of Tunze. Thanks for you suggestion
well a recommendation would help me to ease my search.
I am definitely on a budget. My tank will be a mix reef but probably LPS and softies dominant. i believe SPS will need more flow than LPS and softies so that was the reason i initially wanted to get a gyre 130 and the slim profile. i hate wires running around.

 

[mcarroll]

I am! Tunze makes awesome equipment.

The cords on all their pumps are 2 meters long, so you can not only be creative with the placement of the pump (thanks to the unique shape and mount) but you can be more creative with hiding the cables as well. Altogether, this ususally means that it's not too hard to place the pump out of sight while it's doing its job.

All of their pumps can be more literally hidden in the tank using a ceramic rock fitting, like the Nanostream® Rock for the 6045 pump:

For comparison's sake, the Tunze 6040 or 6150 would be the most similar in concept to the Gyres. Two 6040's would be pretty nice!

I still think I'd start with the set of 6045's that I described earlier. That's a setup which will be easy to add onto later if you decide to.

 

[Kilo]

+Thanks,
Will read up more about those that you have recommended

 

[Kilo]

I don't like single pump solutions for in-tank flow. Sooner or later it will be inadequate, regardless of the numbers, because all the flow comes from one location. Get at least two of whatever you end up selecting.

I'd suggest a set of Tunze pumps, but they have so many good options that I'd need more criteria from you to make more than general suggestions.

Do you have a budget? Any expectations?

For now...I like these options a lot...

Low tech:

A set of Turbelle® nanostream® 6045 pumps. ($78/ea) Four probably makes the most sense. $312, plus some bucks for two timers. Roughly, two pumps on each side (they can be placed creatively) on timers to make a tide effect....all the flow in one direction for a few hours, then all the flow in the other direction for a few hours. Corals love it!​

High tech:

A set of Turbelle® nanostream® 6095's ($233/ea) or the Turbelle® nanostream® 6055 ($184/ea), which are all controllable. Two should do it, but you may want more pumps eventually, as corals grow in and make getting good flow more difficult.​

On my 50 gallon (36x18x18") I use a pair of 6095's, plus a couple of 6045's and one 6020. This tank is packed pretty full of corals - just to give you an idea what to expect.

If it was me with your tank and I was on a budget, I think I'd go for the low tech option and possibly expand with controllable pumps later, if you want. They are not a necessity. (In fact that's how I did it. )

Other interesting pumps you might want to consider are the Turbelle® nanostream® 6040 and the 6150, aka the Turbelle® stream 3.

Hi mcarroll,
I had to downsize my tank. Doing a custom 32"x17"x18".
I will be build up the pumps gradually as i add the corals. Mine will be mixed reef with LPS dorminated
Going to continue to use my existing Jebao RW-4 (flow rates from 500 to 4000L/H.)
Intent to add either of the following at the start
1x 6040 ($140)
or
1x 6055 ($184)
or
1x 6095($230)

which of the tunze would recommend taking into consideration i have jebao, my tank size and the type of coral i plan on keeping.

 

[mcarroll]

Without a budget or knowing anything about the tank layout, this is still all very hypothetical, but fun!

Since you have pump you're going to start with, I'd get the tank going....that way you can factor in real world data to your choices.

You can always order the next pump while the tank is cycling, or after you add crorals, or....

Jebao
I can't comment directly on your current pump or how it might play a role.

Tunze
If you're sticking with the controllable options vs the less expensive/more durable AC pumps, probably the 6040 or 6095. Two very different pumps with very different prices....almost two 6040's in one 6095. But the 6095 is quite powerful and has that amazingly flexible ball design.

You have plenty of time to research by adding pumps this way!

Ultimately flow depends on your tank and the rock, coral placement, etc, so you'll have to experiment.

 

[Squirrel_reefer]

if money is no object to you then I would suggest the Ecotech MP series ( I think that's what those fancy wave makers are called??) and definitely get two of them. With a tank that size you will kick yourself in the butt if you only buy one power head. However if you are like me and you're dirt poor, then Jebao is a life saver, I have had two different Jebao wavemakers in two different tanks and I love them, never had a problem. plus at the price point they sell at, you can flat out buy a replacement (or two) if anything goes wrong, and still spend less money than a single MP series.

PS- LFS said MP series cannot be repaired, not sure if thats true or not but if it is, it's one more thing to consider budget wise for replacments

 

[reeferfoxx]

If you stick with Jebao RW/PP/SW Series you can do two pumps with dual S1 wifi controllers for scheduled intermittent pump action. If your tank is too small(and someone else runs across this) The NEW Jebao SW-2 is smaller than the RW/PP-4's with controllers.

BTW the SW series vs. PP/RW, allows for APEX compatibility.

 

[Kilo]

Mcarroll,
Experiment...i like that. If i take the tunze route, will get a 6040. Add on as needed

Squirrel_reefer,
Ecotech...too expensive....its not painful when they fail. My rw-4 is 6 mth old without any problem

Reeferfoxx,
I like the idea of two rw on master-slave control. I can get a rw-8
Rw-8 is half the price of 6040

 

[reeferfoxx]

Reeferfoxx,
I like the idea of two rw on master-slave control. I can get a rw-8
Rw-8 is half the price of 6040

I've owned Four RW-4's. I've never been able to get Master-Slave to work properly. I have One S1 controller that works like a charm. I will be getting a second one in the future. Kind of holding out for a new version of the S1 controller. Because I wish they would make one S1 controller that connects at least two pumps.

 

[Kilo]

I've owned Four RW-4's. I've never been able to get Master-Slave to work properly. I have One S1 controller that works like a charm. I will be getting a second one in the future. Kind of holding out for a new version of the S1 controller. Because I wish they would make one S1 controller that connects at least two pumps.

Can share what is the S1 controller?

 

[reeferfoxx]

Can share what is the S1 controller?

It's an independent wifi controlled controller for the Jebao pumps and wavemakers.

http://www.fish-street.com/aqlink_s1_wifi_jebao_adapter?search_string=s1

 

[Kilo]

Finally the decision has been made and i have place an order for the 6095.
it was down to either 6055 or 6095. Talked to Tunze customer service and their support and explanation was great. Only bought 1 unit and will run the tank with my existing RW-4. As the tanks matures, plan on adding a 2nd 6095.
Decision factor was 6095's flow is more diffuse and gentle from the wider nozzle and we have adjust the speed according to the needs
Also getting the photo cell together.

18 November is the delivery of my tank