Hi all - I’m curious what could be going on. My water all in sudden has turned cloudy (not terribly cloudy) but my torch coral is all retracted all in a sudden too. What are some things that could cause that? I’ve purchased a ICP test kit from Triton so I can get a full panel of results. Not entirely sure.
Weird Cloudiness & Torch Retracted
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Copingwithpods
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If not a huge ammonia spike (test for that) possibly a bacterial bloom.
Hi all, sorry for the super delayed response. I work retail and it's a crazy time right now at work.
It's a 30 gallon up top and 7 in sump tank
PH: 8.3
Ammonia: 0
Nitrates and Nitrites: 0
I use Instant Ocean Reef Crystals salt and do water changes every week. I have 3 green chromis, 1 yellow tailed damsals, 2 oscillaris clowns, 10 hermit crabs and two turbo snails. My torch coral I had is no longer alive and had to be removed.
I purchased an ICP test kit from Triton and I am sending it in tomorrow so we shall see what their verdict is on some levels.
The water is like a light milky white cloudiness, it's not opaque but it's enough to annoy me.
It's a 30 gallon up top and 7 in sump tank
PH: 8.3
Ammonia: 0
Nitrates and Nitrites: 0
I use Instant Ocean Reef Crystals salt and do water changes every week. I have 3 green chromis, 1 yellow tailed damsals, 2 oscillaris clowns, 10 hermit crabs and two turbo snails. My torch coral I had is no longer alive and had to be removed.
I purchased an ICP test kit from Triton and I am sending it in tomorrow so we shall see what their verdict is on some levels.
The water is like a light milky white cloudiness, it's not opaque but it's enough to annoy me.
Flippers4pups
Fins up since 1993
How long has you tank been running?
Are you dosing anything?
Typically:
White- bacterial bloom. (Exceptions are a overdose of alkalinity (sodium carbonate - soda ash) or calcium hydroxide (picking lime, Kalkwasser)
The above in enough quantities can turn water "milky".
Green- algae bloom.
Clean your tank and change all water to save it, match temp and salinity. Next time, don’t delay when it’s half a brute of water to solve the issue, a rip cleaning solves all the issues it could be. The old rumors that large water changes are harmful has actually killed more reefs than it helped, via incorrect info. We could have saved much more corals if told about disassembly cleaning twenty years ago. The only tanks that can’t disassembly clean are huge tanks, they must wait, hesitate, and work through the water and hope no corals bleached. In our rip clean threads, the annual updates look darn sharp and they all presented with clouding at the start.
nanos do not have to identify the invasion, that’s hesitation. Act before you ID is the new way, to save corals. Thankfully, Jon M used his giant reef to run our most recent rip cleaning, twice in one month, and there was nothing wrong with it. He ripped simply to measure results and remove detritus from the sandbed just to try that mode a while. His tank is #2301 that show in pattern an ideal outcome
the other big water change / I lost something threads are skipping a huge portion of how we prep tanks for big water changes, so their loss isn’t a surprise it’s expected. Following the rules, all rip cleans are successful.
nanos do not have to identify the invasion, that’s hesitation. Act before you ID is the new way, to save corals. Thankfully, Jon M used his giant reef to run our most recent rip cleaning, twice in one month, and there was nothing wrong with it. He ripped simply to measure results and remove detritus from the sandbed just to try that mode a while. His tank is #2301 that show in pattern an ideal outcome
the other big water change / I lost something threads are skipping a huge portion of how we prep tanks for big water changes, so their loss isn’t a surprise it’s expected. Following the rules, all rip cleans are successful.
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Copingwithpods
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Yean no don't do any of that^.
Fact is we don't know what happened yet, could be the coral was dying and it caused a bacterial bloom or it was an Alkalinity spike who knows. Good on you for doing an icp. How are the other inhabitants reacting to all this?
Fact is we don't know what happened yet, could be the coral was dying and it caused a bacterial bloom or it was an Alkalinity spike who knows. Good on you for doing an icp. How are the other inhabitants reacting to all this?
Official Sand Rinse and Tank Transfer thread
If you are reading this thread to cure a tank invasion from a link I sent you, we do not need to identify your type of invasion here we do not need you to test anything at anytime regarding nitrate, phosphate etc Above all, we do not need to see a microscope slide picture of your invasion at...
www.reef2reef.com
daily in messaging i have another rip clean job, very popular due to outcomes we show.
worthy of consideration especially if it remains the only source of example work
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Copingwithpods
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Not going to argue here with you Brandon about deep cleaning aquariums, I know your pitch all too well. I will say that suggestion drastic measures for any simple problem you come across is very irresponsible and only spreads fear in folks facing simple problems with simple solutions. Icp test is on its way well wait for that and help op with its results.Official Sand Rinse and Tank Transfer thread
If you are reading this thread to cure a tank invasion from a link I sent you, we do not need to identify your type of invasion here we do not need you to test anything at anytime regarding nitrate, phosphate etc Above all, we do not need to see a microscope slide picture of your invasion at...
There is no larger resource for sandbed rework on the web. By cleaning the entire system we earn those after pics, ten month updates, all the things we can see there
My other inhabitants are doing just fine, it seems. And yeah, I figured an ICP wouldn't hurt. I just mailed it off today. I'll keep everyone posted. It started clearing up today and I removed the torch yesterday and started vacuuming portions of my deep sand bed.
the first example link shows if this is harmful or fully beneficial, Jon's reef is worth about 5 grand with dinner plate sized corals, rip cleaned twice in one month, while working perfectly/no invasion and no clouding.
it would be imprudent to form an option or make an evaluation without considering 30 pages of actual work, or proving at least one as an alternate.
it would be imprudent to form an option or make an evaluation without considering 30 pages of actual work, or proving at least one as an alternate.
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It has cleared up immensely! I bought a UV Sterilizer and it cleared up almost completely in like 8 hours. In terms of the ICP test, I had some pretty good recommendations from them and I think I’ve identified the cause for the torch to die.
Copingwithpods
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What was the issue?
I’m entirely sure how any amount of copper has gotten into my system but it said I had a high level of copper. It kind of scared me so I purchased the Detox from Triton to help deal with that. Also, refreshing my carbon like their recommendation said. My phosphates were also high and those have started coming down now that I started a refugium. I’m still learning all of this stuff and sometimes I feel like a noob but everyone here is super helpful!
Copingwithpods
Valuable Member
Don't feel lost man I had a 3 year old reef 10 years ago, been back almost a year and I still feel like noob. Good on you for finding the problem and implementing a plan to fix it! Good luck
