Weird disease of Copperband :|

[V_Sh]

Hello friends,

I just wanted to know your opinions and experiences about this symptom around the beak of this butterflyfish.

Any exact diagnosis?
Do you have suggestions for medication?
Amoxicillin in water and food couldn't help, I may go for Florfenicol today

This one feeds on dried shrimp after soaking

 

[Cichlid Dad]

How long have you had the copperband

 

[V_Sh]

Thanks for the reply

About 3 months

 

[Cichlid Dad]

@vetteguy53081 it looks to me that this is an injury, but vettguy might be able to help you

 

[vetteguy53081]

Hello friends,

I just wanted to know your opinions and experiences about this symptom around the beak of this butterflyfish.

Any exact diagnosis?
Do you have suggestions for medication?
Amoxicillin in water and food couldn't help, I may go for Florfenicol today

This one feeds on dried shrimp after soaking

This hemorraging appears to be an injury and may have gotten stuck within a crevice or impact injury. This is one to treat iin a separate treatment tank using seachem Neoplex along with an air stone for added oxygen
If fish eating and breathing normal?
Other foods would be mysis shrimp, plankton and LRS fish or herbivore frenzy

 

[exnisstech]

Sorry I can't help with the condition. Would you mind sharing what you soak the dried shrimp in? I've had a CBB for over a year and it will eat nothing but frozen food and only a couple of those PE mysis being it's favorite.

 

[Cichlid Dad]

Hello friends,

I just wanted to know your opinions and experiences about this symptom around the beak of this butterflyfish.

Any exact diagnosis?
Do you have suggestions for medication?
Amoxicillin in water and food couldn't help, I may go for Florfenicol today

This one feeds on dried shrimp after soaking

Any updates?

 

[V_Sh]

This hemorraging appears to be an injury and may have gotten stuck within a crevice or impact injury. This is one to treat iin a separate treatment tank using seachem Neoplex along with an air stone for added oxygen
If fish eating and breathing normal?
Other foods would be mysis shrimp, plankton and LRS fish or herbivore frenzy

Appreciate your consideration,

As it's in the store tank there is no problem with adding medicines I'll test neoplex (Neomycin) also, its breathing is normal but it can't feed properly due to pain.

past 3 months I've kept this guy with completely nonaggressive smaller fish (not more than 3) and no special or weird kinds of invertebrates were kept in its tank, just one time it got transferred by hand net by myself so carefully.

although a kind of small injury is possible but this symptom made me confused.


To all the friends that may read the threat later Skunk Shrimp with the size of one-third of the fish couldn't help me in this case.
Metronidazole didn't work.
My own Lymphosystis medicine formula which is so effective in other cases didn't work.

 

[Tcook]

That beak look’s broken to me. Looks like a step like fracture half way up the upper beak.

 

[V_Sh]

@vetteguy53081 it looks to me that this is an injury, but vettguy might be able to help you

Any updates?

Hi
Thanks for your precious help.

Maybe it has been started with a kind of injury but as it's kind of growing we should find the bacteria that cause this.

It's really weird

From yesterday it just stopped feeding (Trys to eat but it can't because of pain in the beak)

so I tried Florfenicol dosing in the tank water.

 

[Cichlid Dad]

Hi
Thanks for your precious help.

Maybe it has been started with a kind of injury but as it's kind of growing we should find the bacteria that cause this.

It's really weird

From yesterday it just stopped feeding (Trys to eat but it can't because of pain in the beak)

so I tried Florfenicol dosing in the tank water.

I hope he makes it

 

[V_Sh]

That beak look’s broken to me. Looks like a step like fracture half way up the upper beak.

Thanks for the consideration

I really don't think so as it just feeds on its regular food after this symptom also and the movement of the Mandible and Maxilla is just normal.

 

[Tcook]

Thanks for the consideration

I really don't think so as it just feeds on its regular food after this symptom also and the movement of the Mandible and Maxilla is just normal.

That’s good to hear

 

[OrionN]

I think it is an injury then infection. As long as it get treated it should revivered. I had a CBB with lymphocitis a long time ago. It eroded into the peak resulting in the upper peak about 1mm shorter. As it recovered , the peak grow Bach , no deformity.

 

[V_Sh]

Sorry I can't help with the condition. Would you mind sharing what you soak the dried shrimp in? I've had a CBB for over a year and it will eat nothing but frozen food and only a couple of those PE mysis being it's favorite.

Hi
yeah sure no problem


First of all, you may not add any kind of additive like vitamins, garlic, ... to the food that you want to provide for wild-caught fish.
Just start with the original thing as they fed on the same original thing in nature since they were at the larval stage.

My only suggestion for CBB feeding is the oceanic flesh, like any kind of marine invertebrate.

I just shade-dry the flesh from farmed edible shrimps and cut it with scissors SO CAREFULLY and for the time of feeding, I soak in distilled water.


I usually buy 3-4 CBB for my store every time and just feed them with shrimp (I start with fresh then go for dried-soaked) after that they can easily accept any white-colored oceanic flesh like oyster.

Why do I start with shrimp flesh? because its calory is high enough to keep the fish alive for the first few days that the fish is finicky in feeding and doesn't feed well, AND because I can remove the Chitin outer shell of the animal (which fishes can't digest)

So Mysis and Artemia are BAD choices for marine fishes, but if you feed your CBB with frozen foods like Ocean Nutrition Formula One that's cool and nutritious enough.

Avoid frozen artemia 100% as this creature is not oceanic and has a small amount of flesh and a great amount of Chtinic skeleton, the CBB can't last long enough with this kind of food.


Mysis is better, and as soon as your CBB receives and adapts to eating mysis just go for edible shrimp fresh flesh.

The point with the shrimp is that you should cut each piece of it carefully, CBB doesn't accept any shape at first (Just mimic the shape of a small shrimp body)

And after your fish eats on certain kind of food properly and greedily, you can just start soaking the food in a HIGH-quality additive like Vitamins.


If any questions, I'll be happy to help

Best of luck

 

[V_Sh]

I think it is an injury then infection. As long as it get treated it should revivered. I had a CBB with lymphocitis a long time ago. It eroded into the peak resulting in the upper peak about 1mm shorter. As it recovered , the peak grow Bach , no deformity.

Thank you so much for the precious experience,

For sure I should use vitamins and nutritious foods after the medication.