Well darn now I have red bugs and AEFW

ahmed.boomer · Jul 30, 2015

I accidently left the white channel of my LEDs at 75% today for over six hours. I went to work and came home and found the colony has gone from tan to a cream. I turned the lights back down the 35% where they normally are. I moved the small colony to the bottom third of the tank where I hope it does better.

I did some research but all I found was people saying to frag it or dip the coral. Is there any effective method? I tilted the colony so the bleached area isn't getting exposed to the same extent. Any advise would be appreciated.

I've been having some issue from my stony corals ever since I removed my anemone from the system. Parameters are spot on.

Here's a photo. It's those white tips. I assure you that's not growth. This is the bottom part of the mini colony, most of the bleached part is on the other side.

Triggreef · Jul 30, 2015

Think I see red bugs so that might be more of a problem.

ahmed.boomer · Jul 30, 2015

Triggreef said:
Think I see red bugs so that might be more of a problem.

What! Where?!?!

ritter6788 · Jul 30, 2015

Center of this pic. The orangish spec.

philfree · Jul 30, 2015

mhm, looks like it

ahmed.boomer · Jul 30, 2015

Looks like I'm on my way to get some Bayer. Thank you guys for watching it. That might explain what's been going on recently.

FarmerTy · Jul 30, 2015

I've found you have to use a pretty concentrated amount of Bayer to kill them. What I found is even more effective is interceptor.

ahmed.boomer · Jul 30, 2015

FarmerTy said:
I've found you have to use a pretty concentrated amount of Bayer to kill them. What I found is even more effective is interceptor.

Would I have to use interceptor throughout the entire system? I guess the entire system has red bugs now. Dipping pieces will only help kill the adults.

FarmerTy · Jul 30, 2015

I think you answered your own question there. Only thing though is it'll kill your pods too. If you have a large pod population, you may want to be ready with some premixed saltwater to do a water change when needed.

ahmed.boomer · Jul 30, 2015

Yikes. I'll have to rehome my mandarin. Thank you guys for catching it. FarmerTy, do you know a good thread where I can find the dosage I would need?

ahmed.boomer · Jul 30, 2015

Could I get a conformation these are AEFW?

Will the interceptor kill these as well? I think this particular colony had both of them on there. None of my other corals show signs of eggs, or damage! This is the only new acro I've added in two months.

FarmerTy · Jul 30, 2015

Definitely looks like AEFW to me. Sorry about that. A high dose of bayer will usually stun them pretty well and then a vigorous shaking in the water will dislodge them. I highly recommend wearing gloves while doing this.

I do this successively 3x total every 7 days in a separate tank while inspecting for eggs as well. Then I return them to the tank. You might as well take this opportunity to dose interceptor in the treatment tank as well.

ahmed.boomer · Jul 31, 2015

I'll swing a local pet store or Petco tomorrow and get it. I'm going to have to set up a separate tank for my inverts and mandarin so the treatment doesn't kill them.

I'll keep this thread as a log to myself and if someone wants to follow this in the future.

hybridazn · Jul 31, 2015

You find bayer at a lowes or home depot. I highly doubt you'll find it at a lfs. Its bayer insecticide

And interceptor is only available by prescription only.

ahmed.boomer · Jul 31, 2015

hybridazn said:
You find bayer at a lowes or home depot. I highly doubt you'll find it at a lfs. Its bayer insecticide

Already got that. The interceptor is what I'll be looking for. I could've swore they were off the shelves for several years. Guess they are back now.

jpines · Jul 31, 2015

Gonna tag along. Hope you have success with it! [emoji106]

ahmed.boomer · Jul 31, 2015

Where on earth do I find a vet that will prescribe this for me? I haven't had a dog in three years. Asked some local vets but they said they wouldn't prescribe it.

ahmed.boomer · Jul 31, 2015

Here's the situation and my options. I need some advice.

So I saw acropora eating flatworms (AEFW) after I dipping a small colony that appeared to havered bugs. Prior to that I was planning on treating my tank with PreziPro because my foxface appeared to have worms.

I started dipping all my acros and hard corals in a Bayer bath to help kill the red bugs and AEFW that may be on them. I went looking for heartworm medication, but could not find any. This is a 90 gallon system and a tablet for a large dog will threat 300 gallons. I only need a single tablet as I plan to do three doses them two weeks apart.

Options:
I cannot catch the foxface, so it will stay in the display. I have a 45 gallons corner tank that I used for fish quarantine. I bought a power head to use in that if I was ever going to put the acros in there.

Should I treat the tank with Interceptor (if I can get my hands on it) with the acropora in it and hope it kills most of the the flatworms, or should I separate all the acropora to the 45 gallon tank?

hybridazn · Jul 31, 2015

Interceptor will only work on the red bugs. It won't have any effect on aefw. You can treat the whole tank with interceptor with no ill effects on anything except maybe shrimp if you have any. But I did treatment with my shrimps in the tank and they all survived.

afamousjohnson · Jul 31, 2015

oh man -
Take pictures of your tank along with documentation of the process and what you are using the interceptor for and some vets will prescribe. Thought you couldnt get it in the states tho anymore??