What are these?

[Dan8756]

Hi,
New to marine. Can anybody please help identifying these? I don't want them if they are palythoa etc.

 

[evolved]

The green one on the left is a palythoa.
I'd say the group of three on the right are zoanthids.

 

[Cole.mormon]

Zoanthids. Why do u not want them?

 

[JGT]

Mix of zoas and palys.

 

[Dan8756]

Ok thanks so much on id. From being new im just a little worried from all the hype on palytoxin so just decided not to keep zoas etc and palys. I know that basically everyone keeps or has kept them without issues. Do I need to be worried? From all your experiences I'd love to hear. Thanks so much again.

 

[JGT]

While legit, more hype than anything else. Never had any issues with any type of palys over 20 years in the hobby. Just be smart when handling them outside the tank and you’ll be fine.

 

[Dan8756]

While legit, more hype than anything else. Never had any issues with any type of palys over 20 years in the hobby. Just be smart when handling them outside the tank and you’ll be fine.

Great. Thankyou. Umm...in case I did not want to keep them....any advice on how to remove or as much as it does pain me to say...end them?
Thanks

 

[tripdad]

If you decide you don't want them take the rock to your LFS and have them remove them. They will know how. Stay safe, happy reefing!

 

[JGT]

Can you remove the rock they are on? If so, take the rock out and let it dry out. Then scrape off. This way, you don’t need to even deal with removing them while they are still wet and you can get squirted with their juices=toxins. Still wear gloves and mask/eye protection to be safe.

 

[Dan8756]

Great. Thankyou. Umm...in case I did not want to keep them....any advice on how to remove or as much as it does pain me to say...end them?
Thanks

I mean should I leave them or....they weren't really what I wanted but to get these on some live rock in Newcastle NSW I was pretty stoked at first. The live rock around atm here is pretty basic and I must be a little old school as I did not want the dry rock fake coloured purple. I understand the benefit and in no way putting it down....just...for me...have to live rock even with all the headaches it can present with.

 

[JGT]

I would leave them. Nice freebie on your LR. They will multiply over time.

 

[Dan8756]

Can you remove the rock they are on? If so, take the rock out and let it dry out. Then scrape off. This way, you don’t need to even deal with removing them while they are still wet and you can get squirted with their juices=toxins. Still wear gloves and mask/eye protection to be safe.

Yes definitely can remove. I've actually taken it out a few times in the past couple of weeks to remove some small area of valonia. I feel bad if I remove them but I just don't think I want them.

 

[JGT]

Your tank, your call.

 

[Cole.mormon]

Keep them

 

[Dan8756]

Your tank, your call.

Im just thinking.....maybe I can stick that particular bit of rock in another small tank set up somewhere and let them be. Im pretty sure there may be a pistol shrimp or something that clicks in that bit anyway. Especially when the trochus is on the rock....click...click

 

[evolved]

The green button paly I would chisel off or remove some rock it's on with bone cutters.

The zoas I would keep - they are much safer and not nearly as invasive.

 

[Dan8756]

I think I will leave them. Just thanks so much all for helping. Im allowed to upgrade to a larger tank anyway...within the next year.... so this red sea max nano would make a good quarantine tank I suppose. I will sadly have to find a new home for my frontosa Mikula but I've always been keen on marine scince teens 20 years ago...back when it was harder lol.

 

[Dan8756]

The green button paly I would chisel off or remove some rock it's on with bone cutters.

The zoas I would keep - they are much safer and not nearly as invasive.

So the green is a Paly and the orange a Zoa? Sooo similar looking. This is exactly what I was wanting to know. There is also another...I'll post a pic

 

[Dan8756]

Another

 

[Dan8756]

The green button paly I would chisel off or remove some rock it's on with bone cutters.

The zoas I would keep - they are much safer and not nearly as invasive.

The green tip ones are actually anchored in a nook. Right down. I could chisel them off but would be taking a lot of the surrounding rock with them.