What does this mean?

[scotty333]

Can anyone ( hi Randy hope we’re still mates), help explain what this means and how bad is it?

 

[BeanAnimal]

https://www.triton-lab.de/fileadmin/user_upload/support-uploads/TRITON_RATIOS/Triton_Tech_Paper_-_TRITON_Ratios_1.2.pdf

 

[scotty333]

Wow
Interesting read

 

[scotty333]

THE most important parameter?? So am I in the red zone going of my icp? I’m not understanding if I have inorganic carbon or my triton ratio is out?

 

[BeanAnimal]

I will let Randy or somebody else better equipped answer if the ICP results should be trusted to convey that information and how relevant it is.

 

[scotty333]

I think he’s fell out with me *sobs*

Looking again my inorganic carbon is spot on it’s just the ratio that’s out but there’s no values , since this was done I’ve changed out 50% water but haven’t changed any methods of it not going out of balance again
Will do another next week to check

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

Can you post the whole analysis?

 

[scotty333]

Can you post the whole analysis?

Sure boss
Cheers for stepping in

 

[scotty333]

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[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

In general I’m not a fan of all that ratio talk.

 

[scotty333]

You did see it before and said no problem but I’m in deep at the minute

 

[scotty333]

In general I’m not a fan of all that ratio talk.

35 euro saved
God I owe you a couple of millers

 

[scotty333]

Triton will send out a hit squad

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

I have a real problem seeing the rationale here. All the measurements are in the green. Some ratios are fine and some Triton doesn’t like. I’m not even sure how three or four things can be a single ratio.

Personally I’d accept all the numbers seem ok and be done with it.

Beyond that, it’s up to Triton to convince us of any significance, and the posted text certainly did not do it for me.

 

[scotty333]

I have a real problem seeing the rationale here. All the measurements are in the green. Some ratios are fine and some Triton doesn’t like. I’m not even sure how three or four things can be a single ratio.

Personally I’d accept all the numbers seem ok and be done with it.

Beyond that, it’s up to Triton to convince us of any significance, and the posted text certainly did not do it for me.

Well that got me confuzzled too, why no values but I’m in the red
I mean anything like a set point they put on all their analysis is useful but without 16-1-2 and set point being 10-5-3 what do I get from being red?
They’re not selling anything though which with the icp it’s always low on traces they want you to add and give it an importance star rating but this is putting people on edge

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

Well that got me confuzzled too, why no values but I’m in the red
I mean anything like a set point they put on all their analysis is useful but without 16-1-2 and set point being 10-5-3 what do I get from being red?
They’re not selling anything though which with the icp it’s always low on traces they want you to add and give it an importance star rating but this is putting people on edge

They are selling the test. It’s up to them, IMO, to show its utility.

 

[crazyfishmom]

the whole “ratio” and series of comparisons appears to be just a fancy way to look at trying to make analytics look fancier or more meaningful than they are without providing any relationship between a ratio and predicted outcome or suggestions based on those numbers. I get it that as scientists we try to establish any relationship we can and sometimes this leads to a set of parameters that turns out to be very meaningful but this is unlikely to happen with this sort of data considering that any one user is looking at so many parameters that are not documented at all to ever make this a meaningful experimental dataset.

 

[scotty333]

They are selling the test. It’s up to them, IMO, to show its utility.

Of course, silly me
Last question, what would the order of coral growth inhibitors in stonys
I.e
Unstable kh
Unstable po4
Low ph etc

 

[scotty333]

the whole “ratio” and series of comparisons appears to be just a fancy way to look at trying to make analytics look fancier or more meaningful than they are without providing any relationship between a ratio and predicted outcome or suggestions based on those numbers. I get it that as scientists we try to establish any relationship we can and sometimes this leads to a set of parameters that turns out to be very meaningful but this is unlikely to happen with this sort of data considering that any one user is looking at so many parameters that are not documented at all to ever make this a meaningful experimental dataset.

I get ya drift man, cheers

 

[Dipi]

Hello! You should check the results on a computer. The results you posted here for Triton Ratios are not the same as the ones in the link you sent, when I checked in my pc. All your ratios are green