what happened to all the acros?

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I know sps is a bit harder to keep so many stores don't really bring them in, but it has been almost impossible to find quality wild/mariculured sps colonies anymore. Even Liveaquaria, who used to have a huge selection of sps, only has a few pieces nowadays. Anyone have any suggestions as to where I can get some acro colonies?
 
I know sps is a bit harder to keep so many stores don't really bring them in, but it has been almost impossible to find quality wild/mariculured sps colonies anymore. Even Liveaquaria, who used to have a huge selection of sps, only has a few pieces nowadays. Anyone have any suggestions as to where I can get some acro colonies?
My locoal store gets 3-5 colonies for me every other month or so. Most places probably chop them up because you can make a lot more off the frags. I can usually snag em for 175 a colony. All maricultured in SE Asia is about as specific as the info gets for these things though.
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I am glad those maricultured macro colonies work for someone... have lost 4 of 4 that I have purchased in a system whee I'm 1 out ten losses for aquacultured frags
 
Why would anyone sell colonies when you can get 100$ an inch? Lots of vendors specialize with SPS. BattleCorals comes to mind....
 
Maricultured acros just don’t do well so it’s not worth the time of most vendors. The ones that still bring in wild acros are the ones getting $200-$2000 plus per inch when they add a cereal name to it. I’m sure it has also gotten way more expensive to bring them in considering the cost of fuel and some of the bans that have come and gone
 
not to mention the plague of AEFW the hobby went through a couple years ago....it's easier to keep the aquacultured ones free of pests and hitchhikers. Even a bayer dip won't kill those eggs.
 
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I am glad those maricultured macro colonies work for someone... have lost 4 of 4 that I have purchased in a system whee I'm 1 out ten losses for aquacultured frags
Stable system and staying close to ocean chemistry goes a long long way. I didn't do well off the bat but my system is only a year and a half old and the most recent colonies I've gotten actually perk up after being added compared to what they were at the LFS.
 
I know its a small amount,but if you think about the warming oceans a lot of reefs have suffered from massive bleaching and die off. Look at the GBR for an example. Also ban's and limitations has also put a damper on things.

Not only had that massive reef had huge die off and essentially stopped exporting,but thats the main one you hear about when others are suffering to.

One little store near my house,the owner and I were talking and he said what he can get is so expensive he can't even afford/compete to get them amongst other corals like Acan's,Lobo's and Welso's ect.
 
We have a store that specializes in acropora, among other things. They do well. They are as good as any coastal store that people rave about. They sell frags of named pieces and select wild stuff. They have a good eye, which really helps them. They also know what stuff will sell for and don't have digis for like $75 that waste your time. If you go in there, you will see moderately priced stuff like Blue Tort, Red Dragon and some staples, but they usually also have some nicer things. I got a 30k lokani in there that I have been wanting for a while... so a worthwhile trip. They get in wild stuff too... echinata, spaths, for example - again, a nice eye and they know what is cool.

Most of the rest of the stores around me don't have the knowledge or setups to handle most acropora beyond the super-easy stuff. They will tell you that there is not much of a market, but the market knows not to go and see them.

All of these place should be able to get mari acropora on plugs from their wholesalers. They are still abundant since they just sat there and grew during COVID. They have risks, are not super easy and can have pests. You can get some really wild colored rainbow tenuis if that is still your thing - whole colonies for pretty cheap wholesale. Your normal store with 1st gen AI primes over a frag flat full of mushrooms, duncans and xenia will not be able to do well with mari stuff. These are not super duper hard, but they do kinda need an acropora tank and strong lights.

Wild stuff can also be had, but your store needs to specialize. These need landed and cared for different than other things. There is die off here too that is not free. Most wild stuff is MUCH harder than mari.

In the end, acropora are hard unless the shops happen to be semi-hobbyists too. There are probably only 12-24 people that I know in town that would know or want a JawDropper, for example, and they don't kill stuff and often have other nice things to trade, so they are a limited market - these people are also nothing like the typical cross section that you see on r2r both in husbandry, experience and equipment. Something like fox flame, blue tort and maybe a walt disney are better for these stores since they are all under $50 and have a wider market.

If you want acro colonies, then order some. There are many places online that will ship you a box to your local international airport. Please don't ask me (or anybody else) to lay out who does this - if you want it bad enough, then you can find them and it is kinda necessary as a first step to see if you are serious. There are even places in the US that can handle the ordering for you out of LA and get stuff done for a bit more of a fee. The real issue with this is that you have to get a whole box.
 
Most lfs have colonies in my area.
I prefer the wild ones. Some chop them up, to fast imo, and sell them before they turn white. Sucks but it is what it is.
I have decent results with wild colonies and most are only $100.
I run close to NSW levels.
This is a nice one I found and what it looks like today. I wait 6 months before I take any frags from them.

That is 5 months growth and colorup in my 45 frag system.

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I am glad those maricultured macro colonies work for someone... have lost 4 of 4 that I have purchased in a system whee I'm 1 out ten losses for aquacultured frags
It's difficult to move an established colony to a new environment and have it flourish. Frags do much better at adapting to a new tank once sold.
 
It's difficult to move an established colony to a new environment and have it flourish. Frags do much better at adapting to a new tank once sold.
I have not experienced this at all in my systems.
Why do you think a colony is more difficult than a frag?
 
I am glad those maricultured macro colonies work for someone... have lost 4 of 4 that I have purchased in a system whee I'm 1 out ten losses for aquacultured frags
I don't do maricultured coral either anymore. I'd rather have other hobbyists be the guinea pig for 2 years to find out if it'll color up or even survive in my tank. Too much good stuff in the hobby already, and fewer pests.
 
I don't do maricultured coral either anymore. I'd rather have other hobbyists be the guinea pig for 2 years to find out if it'll color up or even survive in my tank. Too much good stuff in the hobby already, and fewer pests.
For me thats part of the fun to see what it may turn into. I just setup an 80g growout system for that reason.
Its just another part of the hobby I enjoy after 30+ years of your standard reef systems.
 
For me thats part of the fun to see what it may turn into. I just setup an 80g growout system for that reason.
Its just another part of the hobby I enjoy after 30+ years of your standard reef systems.
It's all good. To each his own. I'm glad there are other people jumping on those hand grenades! ;)
 
I also agree with what's been said about high lighting needs. My maricultured colonies sit between 500 and 600 par for 6hrs a day.
I am a old school halide guy who just made the switch to leds.
I do not know the par but that colony was under a 250 halide for about a months then under 16hds for 3 months.
I am getting much better colors on all my corals running the 16hds.
My 20g nano is under 2 16hds.
 
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It's all good. To each his own. I'm glad there are other people jumping on those hand grenades! ;)
I try to get them the day they come in so less stress. If not I wait at least a month and if its still their I get it. After a month a $100 colony is only $50.
 
I have not experienced this at all in my systems.
Why do you think a colony is more difficult than a frag?
Only basing off what I have been told from vendors such as WWC. A colony that has been in a specific stabil environment for an extended period of time moves to a new environment which may have significantly different parameters such as 7 alk versus now 11 alk let's say. I could see how that would shock the coral. I have not purchased SPS colonies myself though with the exception of one green stylo from a tank break down.
 

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