What is this velvet right?

Thomashtom · Apr 29, 2018

Hi this looks like velvet right? Thanks

Big G · Apr 29, 2018

Yep. Sure looks like it. Any behaviors like heavy breathing, swimming into powerheads?
https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/velvet-amyloodinium-ocellatum.217570/#post-2499437

Thomashtom · Apr 29, 2018

Yes been managing ich for 8 months now with same fish, rock, everything in 3 systems don’t know how ich turned into velvet? All 3 systems are full. Other systems are healthy for at least 6 months same thing nothing added. Had to dose CP in DT today . How does ich turn into velvet???? Thanks

Humblefish · Apr 29, 2018

I actually think it looks more like brook: https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/brooklynella.247938/

deedubz · Apr 29, 2018

Humblefish said:
I actually think it looks more like brook: https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/brooklynella.247938/

I was going to say the same thing

HotRocks · Apr 29, 2018

+1 to brook, which if have already dosed CP, it will treat for Brook. So you are covered either way.

Thomashtom · Apr 29, 2018

Brook? Ok again how did it come from ich? Anyway thanks. Could CP work by itself I don’t know if I could catch and dip everyone? Also does copper treat it ? I have a broom tail wrasse in copper in QT. Never ends!!! Thanks for your help

Thomashtom · Apr 29, 2018

Ok sorry but I have no experience with brook . Which I guess is a good thing LOL. Do the fish scratch and swim towards power heads like they do with velvet?

Humblefish · Apr 29, 2018

Thomashtom said:
Ok sorry but I have no experience with brook . Which I guess is a good thing LOL. Do the fish scratch and swim towards power heads like they do with velvet?

They can. If you’re treating with Chloroquine that covers ich, velvet, brook & uronema. Or copper + metronidazole duplicates the same treatment coverage.

Big G · Apr 29, 2018

Humblefish said:
I actually think it looks more like brook: https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/brooklynella.247938/

Agreed. The splotchy nature of the white spots caught my attention initially. Early stage Brook.

Thomashtom · Apr 29, 2018

Ok thanks but I don’t understand how can they have brook? I have not added a rock or anything in the last months and my other 2 systems are healthy for the last 6 months . I have not added anything to them except cuttlefish. I have been fighting ich in this tank for the last 7-8 months with the same fish except the personifer angel which just died. He was the one who kept getting reinfected with ich. Just trying to figure this out? Thanks for your help. Ton

Humblefish · Apr 29, 2018

Thomashtom said:
Ok thanks but I don’t understand how can they have brook? I have not added a rock or anything in the last months and my other 2 systems are healthy for the last 6 months . I have not added anything to them except cuttlefish. I have been fighting ich in this tank for the last 7-8 months with the same fish except the personifer angel which just died. He was the one who kept getting reinfected with ich. Just trying to figure this out? Thanks for your help. Ton

Brook is one of those diseases which can be latent in an aquarium. It's unusual for a non clownfish to show symptoms in the first place, but it does happen. I've also seen cases where symptoms of brook flare up, disappear, flare up, etc. etc. over a period of months or even years. Because it is mostly a species specific disease (clownfish), Brooklynella hostilis has not been well-studied.

Thomashtom · Apr 30, 2018

Ok wonderful, sounds like this could be a case study . CP is keeping them alive but trigger is covered can I try a different approach if things don’t change ? Again thanks for your help . Tom

Thomashtom · Apr 30, 2018

Hi is 60mg per gallon a good dosage for Brook? Its been 2 days and tang is looking worse and Trigger is not eating well. Thanks

Thomashtom · Apr 30, 2018

Sorry for CP.

Humblefish · Apr 30, 2018

Thomashtom said:
Hi is 60mg per gallon a good dosage for Brook? Its been 2 days and tang is looking worse and Trigger is not eating well. Thanks

Thomashtom said:
Sorry for CP.

Yes, provided nothing is biodegrading it i.e. biofilm, high concentrations of bacteria in the water, etc.

Thomashtom · Apr 30, 2018

Ok thanks should i bump it up a little or give it more time?

Humblefish · Apr 30, 2018

Thomashtom said:
Ok thanks should i bump it up a little or give it more time?

I'd go with 60mg/gal... I don't normally see appetite suppression with CP until the concentration reaches 80mg/gal.

deedubz · May 1, 2018

I just caught that you're treating dt. Do you know ~ how much sand and rock are in there? If I remember correctly, I've never treated with CP, the sand and rock can absorb it